Aorus/Gigabyte X570 - Buildzoid Ripple tests with AORUS & ASUS

Sin_Chase said:
Yeah, but as a platform change which should last 4+ years I could probably justify it.

Edit - I meant to put extreme in my previous post with regards to the features (passive Chipset etc). That being said, if the active cooling on the chipset is intelligent (IE only runs when needed) then the passive cooling might not even be needed.
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It will only last 4+ years if you’re happy with this Ryzen or the next. Sockets changing next year according to AMD’s roadmap.
 
robfosters said:
It will only last 4+ years if you’re happy with this Ryzen or the next. Sockets changing next year according to AMD’s roadmap.
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Whats not to like?

I'm still on a x87 4770k build and still don't NEED to upgrade. I'd fully expect any current gen upgrade from Intel or AMD to last just as long.
 
Sin_Chase said:
Yeah, that's quite significant. If the lower actively cooled chipset boards are either silent or dynamically adjusted then the lower end boards would make sense.

That or plans for the chipset blocks for custom loops!
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To be honest, when gaming... The fans wouldn't be heard, or doing data nvme work using PCIe 4.0 to its limits... They ain't going to be in a 'gaming case or living room ' :)

Ekwb will be loving all these fans, nice mobo block with heatpipe to Chipset

@Plec

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/32826880/

B450 testing..
 
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orbitalwalsh said:
To be honest, when gaming... The fans wouldn't be heard, or doing data nvme work using PCIe 4.0 to its limits... They ain't going to be in a 'gaming case or living room ' :)

Ekwb will be loving all these fans, nice mobo block with heatpipe to Chipset

@Plec

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/32826880/

B450 testing..
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It's not a case of being audible when gaming really. It's whether the fan runs 24/7 irrespective of load and therefore is audible when not loading the system.
 
Sin_Chase said:
It's not a case of being audible when gaming really. It's whether the fan runs 24/7 irrespective of load and therefore is audible when not loading the system.
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True, but most case fans will be louder even at lowest rpm :rolleyes:
Will admit, I'd hear it against 14db shadow wings 2 and 18db Silent wing 3 (£15-20) fans
 
robfosters said:
It will only last 4+ years if you’re happy with this Ryzen or the next. Sockets changing next year according to AMD’s roadmap.
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Socket change should correspond to when DDR5 comes available to consumers.


robfosters said:
I switched from a 24” 1080 TN to a 27” 1440 IPS a couple of weeks back, and even on my ancient system it’s rejuvenated my gaming. Everything is just so lovely and vibrant to look at. Started to get back into games that I’d lost interest in playing as they just didn’t get me involved on a poor screen like the new one does. It wasn’t cheap, but it was worth every penny imo, and the new build will just allow it to show off in its full glory.
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By now you should be wondering how you were able to do anything with that ancient 1080p... including browsing web and this forum.
Myself used 30" 2560x1600 for iirc 5½ years...
Going to be hard to find successor which would be at least as good and preferably advance in everything.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
Nah probs bruv , innit time like
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:)

If you have the info - and you regurgitate it as best you can, as far as i'm concerned, as long as it's decipherable, it's not a problem.

/off topic

@EsaT - i have ~£100 for gaming headphones (no mic needed) - for stealth'ish Arma 3 mod missions (My son is kicking my butt as i use speakers) - is 7.1 the way to go?

Do your worst...
 
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Plec said:
@EsaT - i have ~£100 for gaming headphones (no mic needed) - for stealth'ish Arma 3 mod missions (My son is kicking my butt as i use speakers) - is 7.1 the way to go?
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Proper stereo headphones and binaural sound is the way to go.
One of the best headphones for details are actually about £100: AKG K702.
But binaural sound simulation is needed, either from sound card or software...
(motherboard might have some software)

If games paid even one fifth as much attention to sounds than graphics, every game would have headphones option with proper HRTF.
Though that general downhill of game sounds really started when Microsoft killed DirectSound...

Audio-Technica ATH-AD500x would be likely another very good.
If you're feeling lucky about Sennheiser's fancy and mechanically unwise headband design, then HD559 would be little cheaper and is likely quite good.
(had HD595 start rotting after 2½ years, though that used silvery bling bling plastics instead of normal black plastics)

Of course if you have environment's noise to isolate those are all open headphones and don't isolate sounds at all.
In that case £94 Beyerdynamic DT770 would be good... though would need some equalizing of bass, if game tends to have beefy explosions.
(80 ohm for straight 3m cable, 250 ohm version has coield cable which would need using front connector or USB sound card on desk)
 
EsaT said:
Socket change should correspond to when DDR5 comes available to consumers.
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AMD have stated not on Zen 3 but will be on Zen 4 2021, which I've stated few times before .
They will PUSH new tech hard, as it gets users to buy their tech .
Push DDR5 will mean someone will have to upgrade and buy their board , if it's X*70 AMD will profit due to making Chipset in house and board vendors by them for the chips .
AMD has shown what ram speeds they can do with 1:1 and 1:2 ratio but intel allows more and DDR5 is rated faster, lower energy and larger larger Storage .

AMD finally getting some good business sense behind Zen at last ! Though messed up with mid range Navi, should never of been PCIe 4.0 in a mid range card , added to its price - nothing like an Nvidia Titan V pfr power that cokes on PCIe 3.0 x8 bandwidth :(
 
orbitalwalsh said:
AMD have stated not on Zen 3 but will be on Zen 4 2021, which I've stated few times before .
They will PUSH new tech hard, as it gets users to buy their tech .
Push DDR5 will mean someone will have to upgrade and buy their board , if it's X*70 AMD will profit due to making Chipset in house and board vendors by them for the chips .
AMD has shown what ram speeds they can do with 1:1 and 1:2 ratio but intel allows more and DDR5 is rated faster, lower energy and larger larger Storage .

AMD finally getting some good business sense behind Zen at last ! Though messed up with mid range Navi, should never of been PCIe 4.0 in a mid range card , added to its price - nothing like an Nvidia Titan V pfr power that cokes on PCIe 3.0 x8 bandwidth :(
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I would think the biggest driver will be if DDR5 gives a decent performance boost to AMD. If not why push up your costs? AMD are good at pushing the technology forward but sometimes they jump in too early.

I would get the cost of X570 down first and capitalise on cheaper DDR4 and good value Ryzen 3000 CPUs to encourage people to upgrade. Getting a decent 1440p capable GPU in the £300 range would help too.

A good X570 @ £150 16GB fast DDR4 £80 decent 8 core CPU £275 and 1440p GPU for £300 would be a compelling upgrade for a lot of people at ~£800 and last for years.
 
orbitalwalsh said:
AMD has shown what ram speeds they can do with 1:1 and 1:2 ratio but intel allows more and DDR5 is rated faster, lower energy and larger larger Storage .
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That faster memory bus doesn't do much good, if latency doesn't improve.
For most users that latency is more critical bottleneck than bandwidth.
And first iterations of new memory have tended to struggle in matching latencies of high end predecessors.

Also don't think average user will be needing more than already possible 32GB in long time.
 
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