Apple Interview

dmpoole said:
That was a company bowing down to pressure but they certainly didn't claim they'd revolutionised the market with these two ommissions when they eventually added them.
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Ahem, first result when I searched for iPhone4 advert - "we're bringing video calling to the World" (about 50 seconds in) swiftly followed by "it's going to change the way we communicate forever". We can argue about this for a good while yet but where's the point? Even if I do prove that Apple neglect a feature then bring it in with some big fanfare in a later release, it changes nothing for me to have done it. I don't like Apple's marketing from a consumer point of view, nor some of their corporate practices but I do respect their marketing nous - it's clearly working for them.

dmpoole said:
Once again you got this totally wrong.
All IPods have shuffled but the 'Shuffle' could only shuffle.
Apple never claimed they had invented the shuffle technology.
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I'd already replied to HangTime on this, I was under the misapprehension that the naming of the product suggested that the feature was an omission before. It seems it wasn't but as I've said hats off to the marketing boys for making a virtue out of the limited feature set in a new product.
 
you can argue about the marketing all you like, its not the reason people buy their products

They had all the BS marketing when they produced the G4 fluorescent macs

Macs have become popular since they

A) switched to intel

and

B) switched the design to make them so much better looking.
 
MrLOL said:
Macs have become popular since they

A) switched to intel

B) switched the design to make them so much better looking.
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Which ironcially made them essentially a pc in a fancy box with a different os. Despite what the fanboys with the raging stiffy would have you believe.
 
Gerard said:
Which ironcially made them essentially a pc in a fancy box with a different os. Despite what the fanboys with the raging stiffy would have you believe.
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Yup, but people are quite happy to pay extra for a nice looking box.

Look at the fortune people in the case mode forum spend on making their computer look nice.

Its just a different way of doing it. And OSX is a nice alternative to windows. I love imove and iphoto as well, that was one of the biggest draws for me. Theres just nothing else out there on the PC market still thats as good.
 
You find a piece a photo album / editing package on the PC that features all the same features as ilife, like the face recognition software, and then find a piece of software that can edit HD real time and apply effects to HD movies real time thats designed for a consumer rather than a pro

and for less than £46.

Technically as well you'd have to include an audio editing package to make it comparable, as ilife 11 includes garage band, iweb and idvd.

So you'd need a DVD burning program in that £46 and a website editor too.

I'll give you a clue, such a package does not exist on the PC.
 
Gerard said:
Nothing on the pc market as good as imovie or iphoto? :confused:
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Free, included on a brand new machine and perfectly tied in with the whole OS and the other apps?

Well, no.

I know it's all very trendy to hate Apple and you'll say it's all very trendy to like Apple but when it really comes down to it they're just computers, just like yours is. Some people like them better, some people don't. It's really nothing to get worked up about.

Fact is if they were **** they wouldn't sell, and they do.
 
Apple staff are morons.

The only time I spoke to someone who had a clue was when my MBP needed a new motherboard. The guy knew exactly the problem and understood I wasn't completely computer illiterate.
 
scott212 said:
Apple staff are morons.

The only time I spoke to someone who had a clue was when my MBP needed a new motherboard. The guy knew exactly the problem and understood I wasn't completely computer illiterate.
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I like this.

All Apple staff are morons, all of them! Except the man who knew exactly what I meant and then fixed my computer.
 
scott212 said:
Apple staff are morons.

The only time I spoke to someone who had a clue was when my MBP needed a new motherboard. The guy knew exactly the problem and understood I wasn't completely computer illiterate.
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The one time i had to ask advice of an apple store representative, he knew the answer to my question without asking advice, was very helpfull, and even advised me against buying something in store because it wouldnt do what i wanted.

As with every retail store its down to the individuals, not the company.
 
Bes said:
We bought 2 HP 13" laptops. (Life books or something?)

The fan failed on one and the headphone jack failed on the other. We sent them both back and got Sonys.

Do HP use different grades/ quality components in their different ranges?
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The build quality of the machines will vary depending on where it sits in the range (the envy range has to be better built than the basic G series or why would you pay extra) but the actual component quality doesn't vary that much.

At the end of the day be it HP, Sony or even Apple the components all tend to come from the same factories. It just the extras like the casings, speakers and screens that vary.

Problem the Windows market has is that users just tend to either want something basic or they'll want the best spec for the money. Thats why Apple do so well as there products appeal to people that just want a machine thats nice to use and I can totally understand that, after using this Envy laptop I'd never go back to a basic machine.
 
Mekrel said:
To be fair, the OP seems to have a very unhealthy obsession with Apple and that store particularly.

Why would you be proud to work in an Apple store? Surely the pay isn't really anything to write home about?
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Because I wanted to start my first job there, It seemed 'cool' unlike a normal technology store like PC World or Curry's. Also it annoyed me with some of the staff not knowing what XCode is, etc. I always wondered if someone asked me that, I could give them an answer, or similar.
 
MikeeyMon said:
Because I wanted to start my first job there, It seemed 'cool' unlike a normal technology store like PC World or Curry's. Also it annoyed me with some of the staff not knowing what XCode is, etc. I always wondered if someone asked me that, I could give them an answer, or similar.
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As an ex-PC World employee (worked there part-time when I was a student left ten years ago) whenever I've been into an Apple Store recently they are heading more and more towards the Dixons group (DSG) mentality. It's lost the 'cool' feeling that elevated the place above DSG and made it feel more boutique. The products and store design can still carry this off but the store management have broken it. They can cleverly design the store and give the employees Applespeak names, but a Inventory specialist is a still a merchandiser and the sales figure led managers would sell their own granny for an Applecare + MobileMe sale.

As to the Xcode comment - just don't. It's far too geeky for an Apple retail store and would scare any potential employer off. There is a difference between enthusiasm and product knowledge and that level of tech detail. The typical Apple retail buyer doesn't need to know how it works past the user interface. Start explaining to someone about how the cogs inside make it work and they'll turn off in an instant and go buy from someone else.
 
If you want to work in apple retail, as opposed to apple corporate you have come across as a casual gadget enthusiast rather than educated in the technical details. If you start to talk about programming you will be out there pretty fast. It's the opposite for corporate.
 
MagicBoy said:
As to the Xcode comment - just don't. It's far too geeky for an Apple retail store and would scare any potential employer off. There is a difference between enthusiasm and product knowledge and that level of tech detail. The typical Apple retail buyer doesn't need to know how it works past the user interface. Start explaining to someone about how the cogs inside make it work and they'll turn off in an instant and go buy from someone else.
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Completely understand what you was saying, but It annoyed me when I was first learning, I asked them and they did not know. It was disheartening that a company did not know their own technical products. There should be a mix, so people can take over answering questions for the technical customer. But they don't.
 
MikeeyMon said:
Completely understand what you was saying, but It annoyed me when I was first learning, I asked them and they did not know. It was disheartening that a company did not know their own technical products. There should be a mix, so people can take over answering questions for the technical customer. But they don't.
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You are there to make customers feel relaxed, and happy. Very few people ask highly technical questions.
 
MrLOL said:
You find a piece a photo album / editing package on the PC that features all the same features as ilife, like the face recognition software, and then find a piece of software that can edit HD real time and apply effects to HD movies real time thats designed for a consumer rather than a pro

and for less than £46.

Technically as well you'd have to include an audio editing package to make it comparable, as ilife 11 includes garage band, iweb and idvd.

So you'd need a DVD burning program in that £46 and a website editor too.

I'll give you a clue, such a package does not exist on the PC.
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This + when I bought my MBP a couple of years ago there was no Windows PC that had the same speed/ lightness/ portability ratio for similar money (Esp. when the student discount is included). I don't mind OSX, I don't really have a preference between it and Windows.... It's just the Apple haters hating as usual.
 
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