Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones

Dave85 · 3 Nov 2012 at 17:09

If I was the judge right now I would not be amused and be demanding that they get dragged over the coals for once again snidely sticking two fingers up at our courts with hiding it off the page.

Locke · 3 Nov 2012 at 17:15

Yep, they've intentionally made one of the divs have a height so that people have to scroll down where they normally wouldn't.

Don't think they'll get away with that will they?

Skillmister · 3 Nov 2012 at 20:22

http://i.imgur.com/KH555.jpg

[–]Poodlemastah 1134 points 2 hours ago (1339|210)

Here's the code that is on the UK version of the site;
var HeroResize=AC.Class({initialize:function(b){this._height=null;this._hero=$(b);
AC.Object.synthesize(this);this.__boundResizeHero=this.resizeHero.bindAsEventListener(this);
if(typeof window.ontouchstart==="undefined"){this.resizeHero();Event.observe(window,"resize",this.__boundResizeHero)
}},setHeight:function(b){this._height=(b<0)?0:b;return this._height},resizeHero:function(){this.setHeight(parseInt(window.innerHeight||(window.document.documentElement.clientHeight||window.document.body.clientHeight),10)-310);
this.hero().style.height=this.height()+"px"}});Event.onDOMReady(function(){var b=new HeroResize("billboard")
});

It is there specifically to get the bottom 310px of the website out of view. Independent of screen resolution. This is blatantly just to get the statement out of view from most people.

Here's a screenshot on a 1440p monitor.
http://i.imgur.com/h63nO.jpg[1]

Locke · 3 Nov 2012 at 21:32

Yeah just go to their US site and you'll see the difference. The judge wont be happy when he sees that!

www.apple.com / www.apple.co.uk

Skillmister · 3 Nov 2012 at 22:03

It's genius really. Bet whoever showed that in the team meeting got a nice pay rise

Mr Paul · 3 Nov 2012 at 23:10

they get worse every day lol

Deep · 4 Nov 2012 at 02:36

I dislike Apple a fair bit, but I think people will start hating Samsung soon if they keep over playing the situation.

IMO it does annoy me that Samsung release the S3 in May/June and then release an improved version just a mere 4/5 months later.
They also create excellent products which don't match Apples versions, Galaxy Tab vs iPad. This is slightly changing now, but still very annoying.

Em3bbs · 4 Nov 2012 at 07:34

Fluttershy said:
It's genius really. Bet whoever showed that in the team meeting got a nice pay rise

It would be genius if it wasn't so obvious. The irony is that Apple are drawing more attention to the statement by pulling stunts like this. It would have all been over and forgotten by now if they'd just done as asked.

AndyCr15 · 4 Nov 2012 at 08:34

Deep said:
I dislike Apple a fair bit, but I think people will start hating Samsung soon if they keep over playing the situation.

What are Samsung over playing? What are they doing? Apple and just being dicks with the judge.

Deep said:
IMO it does annoy me that Samsung release the S3 in May/June and then release an improved version just a mere 4/5 months later

The S4 is out?!?!? Where?!?!

semi-pro waster · 4 Nov 2012 at 09:41

Fluttershy said:
It's genius really. Bet whoever showed that in the team meeting got a nice pay rise

Will they also get the pay rise rescinded if Apple are found to be in contempt of court for the action? I know the old adage is that "no publicity is bad publicity" and it is keeping both Apple and Samsung in the news but it all seems spectacularly petty. If they'd just accepted the ruling and put up the notice as instructed it would be over and done with but instead there seems to be this somewhat brattish refusal to do what is requested - it's almost as if they haven't really grown up enough to be able to take a reprimand.

Deep · 4 Nov 2012 at 10:52

AndyCr15 said:
What are Samsung over playing? What are they doing? Apple and just being dicks with the judge.

Apples first draft was just pure crap, that's for definite. But if Samsung start jumping on the fact that you have to scroll down to see the notice eventually people will get tired with it. I know the internet is already in uproar but when you take a step back the scrolling down isn't that big of a deal.

The S4 is out?!?!? Where?!?!

Who said S4? I was talking about the Samsung S3 LTE, isn't an improved version over the original?

tomos · 4 Nov 2012 at 11:18

front page - as far as the judge is concerned might mean that the message is right there when you open the page. apple have complied - kinda, but you don't see it without scrolling down so it's not really what the judge meant (i think).

Crafty · 4 Nov 2012 at 11:32

Deep said:
Who said S4? I was talking about the Samsung S3 LTE, isn't an improved version over the original?

Not really, the phone was launched in Asian countries with the exact same hardware. The LTE version has just been made available here now because of EE.

Em3bbs · 4 Nov 2012 at 11:39

Deep said:
Who said S4? I was talking about the Samsung S3 LTE, isn't an improved version over the original?

It's a different variant released over here because of a major decision in allowing EE to utilise their existing spectrum for LTE. Hardly something that happens every time a Samsung phone is released. The other reason it's a bad comparison is that other manufacturers have had to do the same and I would expect the iPhone 5 to have a new variant when the other LTE frequencies start to roll out in the UK. This isn't an iPad 4 situation we are talking about here.

I'd suggest you go back and look at when the Galaxy S, Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S3 were released. Was it really 'a mere 4 months' between each one?

AndyCr15 · 4 Nov 2012 at 13:50

Deep said:
Apples first draft was just pure crap, that's for definite. But if Samsung start jumping on the fact that you have to scroll down to see the notice eventually people will get tired with it. I know the internet is already in uproar but when you take a step back the scrolling down isn't that big of a deal.

But this is my point, Samsung haven't moaned about any of this, the judge has.

Deep · 4 Nov 2012 at 22:49

I should have phrased that a bit more clearly.
If Samsung jump on this too much, even though they haven't at the moment, there is a chance that the public will get annoyed and then they'll get backlash for it.

In response to the other points, I concede on the S2.
However, IMO Samsung have been known to make great products which while brilliant don't live up to Apples offering. The original tablets are the main ones, Samsung phones are far, far superior to iPhones.

AndyCr15 · 5 Nov 2012 at 07:53

Deep said:
I should have phrased that a bit more clearly.
If Samsung jump on this too much, even though they haven't at the moment, there is a chance that the public will get annoyed and then they'll get backlash for it.

Sure, are we going to speculate on all other things that could happen, but that's we've seen no evidence that it will?

If Samsung start clubbing baby seals, that would be quite bad for their image. They need to be careful to avoid that disaster.

Azza · 5 Nov 2012 at 08:52

Great week for Apple, news outlets now running stories about their tax avoidance - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20197710

Their head of PR's life expectancy just had another few years taken off it!

DiCe! · 5 Nov 2012 at 09:15

Oh dear Apple. Saying that, they really are not the only ones. I wish these companies would pay what they should and also the Gov clamp down by closing loop holes.

Intratech · 5 Nov 2012 at 10:15

DiCe! said:
Oh dear Apple. Saying that, they really are not the only ones. I wish these companies would pay what they should and also the Gov clamp down by closing loop holes.

The loop holes are built in for a reason, it's how politicians make money. What they should do is outlaw lobbying and kill all lobbyist.