Apple vs Samsung, court orders Samsung to show Apple 5 new phones

I personally think the infringed patents are hilarious.


'Enlarging documents by tapping the screen' - It's a touch screen device, what else are you going to do? Sing to it?

'Distinguishes between single-touch and multi-touch gestures' - How does a touch-screen work if it doesn't know what is touching it, and how?

'Rounded square icons on interface' - is that even anything more than just the tiniest bit of visual flair?

"Ornamental design of the iPhone (white and black)" - The only similarities I can see on some of these are a bit of chrome round the edges, in terms of the Galaxy S and the Vibrant. The Galaxy S2 looks nothing like an iPhone.

"Bounce-back feature when scrolling beyond the edge of a page" - Oh gosh, think of the man-hours and millions of dollars worth of resources that must have been put in to the creation of that.


Sigh.
 
Can't handle a debate. You haven't even responded to anything and what's wrong with that last post.

Go ahead though, ignore list is in your control panel.
 
I can, you don't listen and harp on about the same thing, even when we've answered that.

You also struggle to understand very simple premises, but then claim everyone else to be stupid.

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n111ck said:
How?
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Well if you can patent every obvious software idea and then hold other companies to ranson for it, then either the company tries to pay for the idea which costs the consumer more or the consumer can only go to one place to get it.

The irritating thing is most of the software patents are for things they have not done, figured out or released yet, like a just in case patent. Meaning that if some other company does it first they cant release it. So it will turn into a game of lets patent every idea that we have so the other guy can't do it.
 
Howard said:
Why is it only in the computer / mobile phone market that "copying" like this goes noticed? It happens everywhere.

Why aren't TV manufacturers patenting remote control button layouts, or piano-black bezels with rounded corners? Why aren't car manufacturers suing each other for developing turn-by-turn navigation systems or 10-way electrically-adjustable seats?

Apple haven't innovated or invented anything, they've simply taken existing concepts and technologies and marketed them for their latest products. You have to applaud their marketing strategy, but I disagree that basic human interaction designs and concepts should be allowed to be patented. Multi-touch? It's existed since way before the iPhone was revealed. Pinch-to-zoom. That's so basic it must have taken Apple at least 5 minutes to implement.

I believe that what's better for the consumer is not a choice of one phone that rests on the laurels of one company's ethos or several others that are limited by the iron-fisted rulings of said other company, but for a number of competing manufacturers working to bring a good quality selection to the consumer, and Apple need to realise that this is the way it should work.

Apple have done a brilliant job of working with a flawed patents system, and yes admittedly Samsung did study iOS quite closely for the design of their software, but car companies for example do the same. Vauxhall will get hold of Ford's latest car and tear it down to the bare nuts and bolts in order to see areas of which Ford may have innovated. Ford will do the same with Vauxhall's latest car. Why can't Apple do this?

Has there not been any uproar about the fact that Apple blatantly "copied" the Android pull-down notification area? (Genuine question).
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actually it does happen in the motor industry but again mainly in america. Ford had the rights to heated windscreens for years, one of their only innovations, thats why most cars haven't had them til recently.
 
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Richie said:
Here we are again....






And yes, I have no issue with this patent as Google DID invent this. AFAIK there is no prior art for notifications in this way for mobiles or even computers (I am happy to accept someone to prove me wrong). I would also have no issue with this patent if Apple asked for it.


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my outlook has been popping up with my emails in the corner of the screen for years, annoying adware has constantly irritated me with notifications for at least 10 years. Its not a particually orginal feature.
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When a phone rings it notifies you. A doorbell is a notification system. An e-mail is a notification system. Surely the whole point is the method used?
 
No, why would you, they weren't all that innovative. As I said, it's all about the method, not just that it notifies you. That's kinda the point I was making.
 
AndyCr15 said:
No, why would you, they weren't all that innovative. As I said, it's all about the method, not just that it notifies you. That's kinda the point I was making.
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you'll have to forgive me as I'm probably being thick. If you can't patent a phone ringing, a door bell, an email notification system. Why is it right to patent a list of notifications?
 
Google hasn't applied for a patent for a list of notifications. Google applied for a patent for the method to get to that list, the way that list is displayed and the functions available as a result of using it.

Im pretty sure if apple can patent 'Enlarging documents by tapping the screen' then samsung should be granted a patent for the pull-down system.


here's the application for anybody interested http://www.google.com/patents/US20090249247?printsec=description#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
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^^ Ding ding. Someone understands. For the third time, its the method...

Anyone else thinking jjgreenwood is Glaucus other account? Ignore added :)
 
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