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Are new full fat Hawaii XT cards on the way ?
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Of course Nvidia have an answer, ridiculous to think otherwise tbh. They have been one step ahead each time AMD drop a GPU..
AMD dropped 7970, Nvidia answered with 680 plus
'Nvidia Titan'
then followed with 780 (Took the lead)
AMD answered with 290X
Nvidia followed with 780Ti / Titan Black. (Took the lead)
If AMD drop full fat Hawaii, Nvidia will answer for sure..
Agreed. GTX 790 (Maxwell) 28nm. Plus price drops on GTX 780 / 780 Ti.
AMD dropped 7970, Nvidia answered with 680 plus
AMD sorted the drivers and sold shedloads of HD 7970s and outperformed the GTX 680.
AMD have also sold shedloads of 290Ps
The only thing NVidia could try is a GTX 790 but we already know where that is going as the Titan Z performance is very poor. The thing NVidia could do with a GTX 790 is to watercool it which would make the card err more expensive.
If NVidia really want to compete they need to sell their cards at realistic price points.
Goes both ways, the 7990 launched at a ridiculous price only to tumble to half its price later in the year. Just wondering how long before the 295x2 takes a dive in price.
This would be more down to the lack of ROPS rather than the memory bandwidth. In the 295X2 vs Titan Z comparison the latter has more memory bandwidth (336GB/s vs 320GB/s).
The ROP throughput/Pixel fillrate on the titan Z is theoretically much lower than the 295X2.
~876Mhz x 48 = 42GB/s (x2)
~1000Mhz x 64 = 64GB/s (x2)
Back on topic the release of the "Full fat" 290XTX doesn't really change much at the top end. The 780TI will still end up (marginally) quicker in most review benchmarks, whilst user reviews / more in depth benchmarks will show rough parity across the top end cards (clocked up of course).
Overall, meh.
Caporegime
AMD paid the price for underclocking Tahiti, however the 680 came out three months later that the 7970.
Caporegime
We may be in for a bit of a disappointment in 20mn, just because its a smaller node does not automatically mean its this and that.
the fact that its a smaller node could bring its own problems, it may not clock as well as 28nm, it maybe be more difficult to cool because of its more compact nature....
the fact that its a smaller node could bring its own problems, it may not clock as well as 28nm, it maybe be more difficult to cool because of its more compact nature....
Can't be much worse than cards running at 95c in any case
Pity none of the interviews lately with Richard Huddy asked him about thermals and what amd was going to do to do a better job with regards to heatsink designs and fan noise.
Caporegime
Can't be much worse than cards running at 95c in any case
Pity none of the interviews lately with Richard Huddy asked him about thermals and what amd was going to do to do a better job with regards to heatsink designs and fan noise.
I think 8Pack might know but can't say
You are making my argument for me
How many ROPs is the new NVidia card said to have.
3,200 CUDA cores, TMU's: 200, ROPS: 32, Memory Bus: 256, Architecture: Maxwell.
This card is starting to look like an epic failure at high resolutions and oh that 256bit bus.
+1
I think we have had a hint from OCUK, I can see them selling for about £750.00 in a couple of months time.
Caporegime
That's not the case at all but believe what you want.
LambChop does it often and I pick him up on it.
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It's pretty much slower than GTX780Ti at above 1920x1080 res guaranteed looking at those specs...
Teabreak
Time for a cup of tea.
Time for a cup of tea.
They probably were not able to cool it adequately (or were not confident they could do so). This would be much like the GTX 480 which wasn't a full chip either.
My guess is that the success of the AIO cooler on the 295x2 card (when compared to the Titan Z cooler) means that AMD are confident they could cool the full chip with such a cooler.
My guess is that the success of the AIO cooler on the 295x2 card (when compared to the Titan Z cooler) means that AMD are confident they could cool the full chip with such a cooler.
Quite (I wasn't disagreeing with your underlying point BTW).
It makes me a sad panda to see a rumoured 256bit / 32 ROP config on the Maxwell cards. I want true next gen performance, not neutered slightly quicker than current gen in 80% use case.
Soldato
Until we see retail cards, this is all speculation on rumor. Nvidia certainly aren't stupid, whatever AMD release you can be sure Nvidia will respond and most likely with more performance albeit at a higher price.
Whatever comes next, 28nm really is getting long in the tooth...
Want full fat new architecture on 20nm node
Whatever comes next, 28nm really is getting long in the tooth...
Want full fat new architecture on 20nm node
Until we see retail cards, this is all speculation on rumor. Nvidia certainly aren't stupid, whatever AMD release you can be sure Nvidia will respond and most likely with more performance albeit at a higher price.
Whatever comes next, 28nm really is getting long in the tooth...
Want full fat new architecture on 20nm node
*Cough* FX 5800 Ultra */Cough*
Soldato
*Cough* FX 5800 Ultra */Cough*
Ha, if the worst thing is a GPU from 11 years ago I think Nvidia are pretty much on top of their game
*Cough* FX 5800 Ultra */Cough*
The new GTX799 comes with Nvidia 3D vision glasses free of charge! and Nvidia 3D vision earplugs!
Ha, if the worst thing is a GPU from 11 years ago I think Nvidia are pretty much on top of their game
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