Are people not responsible for their own actions anymore?

Trump gets blamed all the time. Their favourite is to blame him for splitting up illegal immigrant families, even though it happened all the time under Obama, and it's actually the parents' fault for being illegals.

Trump needs to build the wall more quickly, and also to deport the millions of illegals in the USA.
If America falls, we all fall. He's the only one standing between us and global dictatorship, hence why Silicon Valley is going all out to ban pro-Trump voices from social media. Anyone seen the latest Project Veritas video?
 
FoxEye said:
No but it does make you more cynical, knowing that that is a spectrum between fake news and honest reporting, and almost none (probably absolutely none) of the media/news outlets are sitting at the honest reporting end of that spectrum.
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Well sure, cynicism is pretty much a prerequisite when reading just about anything from just about any media outlet. A single story can be spun in opposite ways depending on the agenda of the journalist/publication.

However, unless there is a suggestion that the whole thing was faked, the photograph of Alan Kurdi was a striking illustration of the tragic situation faced by thousands of people at the time.

We can discuss the causes (there are many) which can also be spun in a variety of ways (as @vanillaface is demonstrating) but it doesn’t change the reality that those people face(d).

Sometimes a single picture is enough to get the whole world to take notice, even if it was manipulated (although there’s no evidence of that yet).
 
Jesus Christ, maybe it's because I try to avoid politically charged threads but some on this forum definitely has some questionable right wing views :rolleyes:.
 
Right wing: capitalism, small government, low taxes, personal responsibility.
Highly questionable, for sure.
We should be aiming for communism, big government, high taxes, and blame-everyone-else-but-ourselves.
That sounds more reasonable to me.
 
All I'm thinking is that if I had a kid, I'd not be taking a pretty unreasonable chance on crossing a border where either I or my child could die. Other countries owe us nothing, regardless of what we like to think.

Open borders is a nice idea but it is absolutely not practical while the majority of humanity is comprised of utterly selfish twunts.

Also, America is a pretty messed up place and I'd probably be looking at Brazil instead in that situation tbh.
 
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All I'm thinking is that if I had a kid, I'd not be taking a pretty unreasonable chance on crossing a border where either I or my child could die. Other countries owe us nothing, regardless of what we like to think.

Open borders is a nice idea but it is absolutely not practical while the majority of humanity is comprised of utterly selfish twunts.

Also, America is a pretty messed up place and I'd probably be looking at Brazil instead tbh.
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Uhh, and what if your country is a **** hole and what's best for your kid is to leave it?

Perfectly reasonable and also no. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil
 
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Narj said:
All I'm thinking is that if I had a kid, I'd not be taking a pretty unreasonable chance on crossing a border where either I or my child could die. Other countries owe us nothing, regardless of what we like to think.

Open borders is a nice idea but it is absolutely not practical while the majority of humanity is comprised of utterly selfish twunts.

Also, America is a pretty messed up place and I'd probably be looking at Brazil instead tbh.
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Not everyone is like you.
Some people believe that the risk to their child is worth it for the chance of free money. After all, they can always have another child. $$$$$ in exchange for the death of their child = bargain.
This attitude, or rather what causes this attitude, is why the society they are leaving is garbage in the first place.
 
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So what if they do? Somebody has to oppose and question the idiocy of the 'progressive' left.
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Ahh yes the idiocy of making a better life for children fleeing from violence, criminal activity and poverty. Why dont the Irish and Italian descendants leave America then?

HOW ******* DARE THEY.

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I shall email all of my expat colleagues working in Sao Paulo and tell them that they are idiots. Thank you for your valuable input.

Meanwhile in London...
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Murder rate in Sao paulo is ~6 per 100k persons and ~1 per 100k persons in London, great comparison.
 
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Murder rate in Sao paulo is ~17 per 100k persons and ~1 per 100k persons in London, great comparison.
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Fair point but pretty sure that's going to be varied depending on where you live and work. Just like how I avoid certain parts of London and even my own area like the plague.

If I head to certain parts around my way and mouth off to someone there is an almost 100pc chance of being stabbed.

In the road next to me a delivery driver had a knife pulled on her the other day for blocking someone's car.

So yeah, I don't do that.
 
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