Are people not responsible for their own actions anymore?

Wait...you mean those murderers aren't people too? People that may illegally enter countries?
 
If I head to certain parts around my way and mouth off to someone there is an almost 100pc chance of being stabbed.
Stabbing someone for saying something you don't like isn't a very English thing to do, so how come there is an almost 100% chance of this happening near where you live?
 
Stabbing someone for saying something you don't like isn't a very English thing to do, so how come there is an almost 100% chance of this happening near where you live?
Diversity is our strength.

Edit: Don't tar everyone with the same brush, it's definitely not on but in my area there are a lot of undesirables from various backgrounds and it's grinding me down.

FGS thread has gone off topic :mad:
 
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Diversity is our strength.

Edit: Don't tar everyone with the same brush, it's not on but in my area there are a lot of undesirables from various backgrounds and it's grinding me down.

Everyone must not be tarred with the same brush.
However, the ability to recognise patterns, and then be willing to talk about them, is one of the things which might save us.
 
Anyone remember that photo of the dead boy who got washed up on some beach a few years ago?
Well, he didn't get washed up there. He was picked up and dropped in that position for the photo op, to pull on the heart strings.
Things that didn't happen for 10 points please.

Also, what's your point anyway? Whether the photo ops are 100% legit or somewhat manipulated, the tragedies are still happening and the photojournalism in question is undoubtedly bringing the actual issue to a wider audience.
 
Things that didn't happen for 10 points please.

Also, what's your point anyway? Whether the photo ops are 100% legit or somewhat manipulated, the tragedies are still happening and the photojournalism in question is undoubtedly bringing the actual issue to a wider audience.
The tragedy of millions of excess population from the third world, immigrating to Western nations for free money, bringing with them the very qualities which created the garbage societies from which they flee?
I would agree that this issue must be brought to the attention of as many people as possible, before it is too late.
 
The tragedy of millions of excess population from the third world, immigrating to Western nations for free money, bringing with them the very qualities which created the garbage societies from which they flee?
I would agree that this issue must be brought to the attention of as many people as possible, before it is too late.
Master-race vibes, yo.
 
Master-race vibes, yo.
It's not entirely wrong. They do bring aspects of the culture they were leaving.

Such as attitudes towards law and order, corruption (which is just normal in many places), stuff like FGM...

You don't have to be reading Mein Kampf to be open to the idea that mass immigration from one place to another, where the culture is significantly different, may bring with it some problems.

It's easy to just say "you sound like Hitler", but it doesn't remove the problems or go any way to solving them. So it's hard for anyone but the raging lefties to take such a comment seriously.
 
Master-race vibes, yo.
It's pretty much tribal when you get to the basics though isn't it?

People don't want reduced living standards which is brought about by people willing to work for a vastly reduced wage.

People migrating from vastly disparate economies tend to cause problems and resentment. You can't knock anyone for wanting to improve their lot in life but it's not without impact, which is why protectionist policies find popularity within the electorate.

As I said, it's two sides of a coin... Person A wants to maintain wages and living standards while person B from elsewhere wants more money than they have now and to improve their lot. Result is everyone gets screwed.

So yeah I see both sides of this but I am pretty cynical.. A lot of people don't live in the real, metropolitan world.

This thread has derailed though which is pretty sad.
 
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I think we should open the borders. It's a lost cause trying to drill sense into the idealistic brigade who think they can save the world. At least in a decade when everything inevitably turns to ****, we can say "told you so!" :o
 
It's pretty much tribal when you get to the basics though isn't it?

People don't want reduced living standards which is brought about by people willing to work for a vastly reduced wage.

People migrating from vastly disparate economies tend to cause problems and resentment. You can't knock anyone for wanting to improve their lot in life but it's not without impact, which is why protectionist policies find popularity within the electorate.

As I said, it's two sides of a coin... Person A wants to maintain wages and living standards while person B from elsewhere wants more money than they have now and to improve their lot. Result is everyone gets screwed.

So yeah I see both sides of this but I am pretty cynical..

This thread has derailed though which is pretty sad.

A country is a vastly scaled up version of a home.
A person invites into his home those who are similar to himself.
This is so that he feels comfortable with his guests, and can be almost sure that they will not eat all the food in his fridge, stop him from doing what he wants, and assault his daughter.

Anyway, back to the subject of the thread, criticism of Trump in regards to what happens to the illegals as they pour into the US, is done by the people who want a borderless world in which the nations do not exist. Without the nations, the peoples do not exist neither. Instead, peace and security are replaced by strife.
The media, working on behalf of government and corporations, want this borderless world, because the politicians can have more money and power and the executives of corporations can move their money around more easily, and keep wages low for greater profitability and yachts.
 
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I think we should open the borders. It's a lost cause trying to drill sense into the idealistic brigade who think they can save the world. At least in a decade when everything inevitably turns to ****, we can say "told you so!" :o"

The nation-wreckers believe:
1. That by the time the collapse comes, they will be dead or will have fled to safety.
2. That they can feed the crocodile in the hope that it will eat them last.

What they'll find though is that the crocodile will eat them as soon as it can. When Corbyn's drones say, "B-b-but we helped you all the way", the crocodiles will say, "that is why we must kill you, because we know that you are not to be trusted".
 
"G-MAN2004 said: ↑
I think we should open the borders. It's a lost cause trying to drill sense into the idealistic brigade who think they can save the world. At least in a decade when everything inevitably turns to ****, we can say "told you so!" :o"

The nation-wreckers believe:
1. That by the time the collapse comes, they will be dead or will have fled to safety.
2. That they can feed the crocodile in the hope that it will eat them last.

What they'll find though is that the crocodile will eat them as soon as it can. When Corbyn's drones say, "B-b-but we helped you all the way", the crocodiles will say, "that is why we must kill you, because we know that you are not to be trusted".

Indeed.

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"G-MAN2004 said: ↑
I think we should open the borders. It's a lost cause trying to drill sense into the idealistic brigade who think they can save the world. At least in a decade when everything inevitably turns to ****, we can say "told you so!" :o"

The nation-wreckers believe:
1. That by the time the collapse comes, they will be dead or will have fled to safety.
2. That they can feed the crocodile in the hope that it will eat them last.

What they'll find though is that the crocodile will eat them as soon as it can. When Corbyn's drones say, "B-b-but we helped you all the way", the crocodiles will say, "that is why we must kill you, because we know that you are not to be trusted".

Please tell that to Irish and Italian diaspora please, i'm sure they'd be really happy for being the cause of collapse in the US back in the late 19th century. Oh wait, the US became a superpower instead? OOPS.
 

It seems like a religious-like belief to me, and I don't think it is a coincidence that as belief in Christianity decreased, belief in the State increased.

Oh, for things which work rather than things which don't.
Why can't we protect the land, the people, animals, nature, tradition, our culture, our history, our society. Why can't we have a small state which leaves us alone and serves us rather than themselves and their paymasters?
That's a rhetorical question, of course. The reason is representative democracy. For democracy to work, a knowledgeable and more importantly, moral, electorate is required. What do we have? One which is only too willing to be bribed with its own (and other people's) money.

Ah, well. Mustn't grumble.
 
Please tell that to Irish and Italian diaspora please, i'm sure they'd be really happy for being the cause of collapse in the US back in the late 19th century. Oh wait, the US became a superpower instead? OOPS.
It's not about geography. It's about shared values. Common cause.

Many of the people the left would allow to pour in actually have little in common with the natives. And don't share our values, culture, ethics.

Some of them don't even like us (aka "The West").
 
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