Are you 18-24 and unemployed?

Some people seem think unemployment is a crime or just taking time off to relax is somehow wrong. They are just sad fools who don't realise there is more to life than work and earning money.
 
Makunouchi said:
Been out of work since the start of April.

And I don't intend to tell them anything, I'm not looking to get another 'career' job, I want something with the least possible responsibility. My last job was high stress, long hours, good pay, but nearly killed me, I don't want to get anywhere near another job like that for at least a couple of years.
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This made me think of American Beauty :D
 
Pneumonic said:
I am not arguing that it is easy to get a job in your chosen 'career', especially not for a graduate right now however I think as people have pointed out there are jobs if your willing to do them, ofc this comes down to personal circumstance.. However, again I would look more favourably on someone that had gone out an been proactive in the job market than someone who had done nothing.. this is unfair people have personal circumstance but as an employer you see a C.V. not personal circumstance.. if it's down to person a and person b as to who I am going to interview and person a has been proactive in getting employement i.e. worked at Maccy D's or call centre or what have you.. then I go for person a... maybe not fair.. but nor's life..
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I worked nightshifts in a warehouse to make ends meet. Did it cause employers to look upon me more favourably? No, as it wasn't relevant to what they were looking for (any idiot can shift boxes in a warehouse).

There's also the issue of contacts, internal hiring and so on.
 
NinjaSeb said:
Some people seem think unemployment is a crime or just taking time off to relax is somehow wrong. They are just sad fools who don't realise there is more to life than work and earning money.
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I believe in the welfare state and supporting people who have fallen on hard times for whatever reason.. I have no objection to that.. I have no objection to people claiming benefit if they are actively seeking work..

What I do SERIOUSLY object to is people who are 'relaxing' on my taxes.. I don't work 70 hours a week and pay 40% of my income so they can sit on their lazy backsides and 'relax'..

Don't want to work.. fair enough.. don't claim benefits
 
sr4470 said:
I worked nightshifts in a warehouse to make ends meet. Did it cause employers to look upon me more favourably? No, as it wasn't relevant to what they were looking for (any idiot can shift boxes in a warehouse).

There's also the issue of contacts, internal hiring and so on.
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I can only explain it from my point of view which ofc is not represenative of all employers.. As I have said I agree it's not fair and it's not easy right now
 
Not any more, but I was unemployed for nearly a year after graduating from Uni. So much for a degree being the gateway to the world of work.
 
Pneumonic said:
I believe in the welfare state and supporting people who have fallen on hard times for whatever reason.. I have no objection to that.. I have no objection to people claiming benefit if they are actively seeking work..

What I do SERIOUSLY object to is people who are 'relaxing' on my taxes.. I don't work 70 hours a week and pay 40% of my income so they can sit on their lazy backsides and 'relax'..

Don't want to work.. fair enough.. don't claim benefits
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Why don't you complain about the bankers that screwed up the economy with their bad credit first, as they're the root of the recent collapse? Not to mention any PFI involved firm, "training provider" that's paid ridiculous amounts to temporarily get rid of unemployment figures, MPs scrounging huge allowances..

Benefit fraud isn't taken lightly (neither here nor by the government) but the above seems to be.
 
Pneumonic said:
I believe in the welfare state and supporting people who have fallen on hard times for whatever reason.. I have no objection to that.. I have no objection to people claiming benefit if they are actively seeking work..

What I do SERIOUSLY object to is people who are 'relaxing' on my taxes.. I don't work 70 hours a week and pay 40% of my income so they can sit on their lazy backsides and 'relax'..

Don't want to work.. fair enough.. don't claim benefits
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I also don't think it's good for anyone to use benefits to take time off and relax but your point about it being your taxes isn't really taking everything into account, i mentioned it before that any benefits taken now were or will be paid for by the person taking them in the vast majority of cases, also you can be pretty sure the government will not stop collecting those taxes even if the numbers on benefits were a lot less, they would happily find somewhere else to spend/waste it.
 
sr4470 said:
Why don't you complain about the bankers that screwed up the economy with their bad credit first, as they're the root of the recent collapse? Not to mention any PFI involved firm, "training provider" that's paid ridiculous amounts to temporarily get rid of unemployment figures, MPs scrounging huge allowances..

Benefit fraud isn't taken lightly (neither here nor by the government) but the above seems to be.
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Oh don't get me wrong I will gladly sit, debate and lay the blame for the current situation at a number of people's feet! :)

Nor do I take your situation lightly, having been in the situation myself and indeed my G/F having just graduated is in exactly the same position I can well understand your frustration.

Again I reiterate that this is perhaps a devils advocate position from an employers point of view... on a purely personal level I totally agree the situation is a total mess and unfair.. however I am responsible for the well-being of ALL my employees to ensure that our division continues to grow and prosper and from that position I am obliged to take on the best person for the money I am offering to ensure that continued success.. right now that is somewhat pushing graduates out of the market.. again I agree this isn't fair to those individuals.. however from a purely corporate point of view an employers market is a good thing
 
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Radiation said:
I also don't think it's good for anyone to use benefits to take time off and relax but your point about it being your taxes isn't really taking everything into account, i mentioned it before that any benefits taken now were or will be paid for by the person taking them in the vast majority of cases, also you can be pretty sure the government will not stop collecting those taxes even if the numbers on benefits were a lot less, they would happily find somewhere else to spend/waste it.
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Again as the post says no issue with people being on benefits if they are actively looking for work no matter how long that takes.. my issue is with those that aren't.
 
I'm 18 and got a part time job cleaning.
The thing is that most of my friends who are unemployed and say it's so so hard trying to find a job aren't looking at all. They spend the week doing nothing and claim it's impossible to find a job and complain all the time about money. The ones of my friends with a job did look and now have a job. It is hard to get a job, but you have to try hard to get one. A job isn't going to find you at this age.
 
21 and unemployed, graduated from uni in june. Looking around in various areas and just haven't got the experience for the areas I'd like to get into.
Had a careers/jobs workshop thing today that went over making your CV stand out and interview techniques, so I'm hoping I might get a bit further now, I'm not holding my hopes high though.
Wish I put off finishing uni and worked for a year at the company I was with last summer, I'd have got a load of experience, plenty of cash to keep me going and maybe even some proper trained courses. Hindsight is a wonderful thing....
 
Nope. I managed to secure an internship during my 2nd summer of uni and then got a graduate job off the back of that. I know a ton of people who don't have a job though.
 
McDaniel said:
I do question what sort of jobs people are going for sometimes though, I could easily go get a job at a Supermarket/McDonalds/Call Centre if I was unemployed tomorrow... of course that's not what I want to be doing, but it's money until I found something else!
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Thing is McDougal, even the Supermarket/McDonalds/Call Centre's have to throw someone's CV in the bin, or they just don't like the look of your name or your face...

Usually the person rejected from these "menial" jobs has been myself, and imagine the emptiness you would feel if McDonalds turned you down for a job? Happened to me, it wasn't a nice feeling at all. Luckily I was offered a job at a Shop/Post Office a week later, otherwise that rejection would have festered and ultimately led to the end of my job search as I was almost at rock bottom.
 
NinjaSeb said:
Some people seem think unemployment is a crime or just taking time off to relax is somehow wrong. They are just sad fools who don't realise there is more to life than work and earning money.
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Well, it's in your own interests. It's not a 'crime' but personally i'd rather get a decent job, retire early and live a nice life without having to worry about money.
 
There are people who do freeload off the system and deserve contempt... but everyone seems to get tarred with the same brush... I'd like to see a lot of these people try and find a job under the same circumstances...
 
Pneumonic said:
Oh don't get me wrong I will gladly sit, debate and lay the blame for the current situation at a number of people's feet! :)

Nor do I take your situation lightly, having been in the situation myself and indeed my G/F having just graduated is in exactly the same position I can well understand your frustration.
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There are some positive responses, but given the sheer numbers I'm dealing with it isn't that much of a success rate.

Pneumonic said:
Again I reiterate that this is perhaps a devils advocate position from an employers point of view... on a purely personal level I totally agree the situation is a total mess and unfair.. however I am responsible for the well-being of ALL my employees to ensure that our division continues to grow and prosper and from that position I am obliged to take on the best person for the money I am offering to ensure that continued success.. right now that is somewhat pushing graduates out of the market.. again I agree this isn't fair to those individuals.. however from a purely corporate point of view an employers market is a good thing
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What kind of company, out of interest?
 
Im 23 and unemployed, I graduated last year and was working at a Graphic Design agency for 6 months before the recession hit and several staff out of an already small company were let go.

I still haven't found a new job within the industry or otherwise after looking for 7 months now. Joy.
 
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