Soldato
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Muslim immigrant Mohamed Muktar Jama "Mo" Farah knighted. Something we can all be proud of.
Rome started to collapse when it started to let in masses of un 'Romanised' Germanic tribes as opposed to previously when it had conquered, expanded and 'Romanised' those that it came across......
Can't tell if you're being serious?
An immigrant being knighted shows that we as a country are welcoming and tolerant?
Rome started to collapse when it started to let in masses of un 'Romanised' Germanic tribes as opposed to previously when it had conquered, expanded and 'Romanised' those that it came across......
White guilt is so weird because there's literally no one calling for it other than other white (usually liberal) people.
No one really says you should feel bad about what your ancestors might have done, or for being privileged.
(Apologies for derailing the thread a little...)
The first Germanic invaders were the Visigoths. They were at peace with the Romans and at least as Romanised as some of the slaves in Rome itself. When the Hun invaded their lands, they fled and tried to enter Roman territory on the opposite side of the Dabude. The Romans stopped the Visigoths crossing the border. This was this act enraged the Visigoths and led to the them sacking Rome a few decades later.
And it's all moot anyway. This all happened after centuries of prosperity and the constant flow of labour made Rome the power that we still admire today. Every empire eventually crumbles.
There’s not really one reason. There are a multitude of reasons. Everything from our natural resources, climate and geography that have us a good start. Our stability and governance (things like the Magna Carta likely made a big difference). Our proximity to trading partners leading to our “mastery of the sea” and subsequent ability to travel the world, the colonialisation that that enabled and subsequently the use of resources and slavery.
Well, it does not have to be true for people to believe in it. The 52% prove it quite well don't they?Nonsense Rome had not had 'centuries' of mass inward migration like it saw in the fourth century onwards.... it had centuries of expansion into new areas itself either killing, Romanising or enslaving the people it conquered not at all the same.
Its as dishonest to claim that the German tribes movement from the third and fourth centuries into Roman lands was 'business as usual' from the Roman state as it is to claim that migration in the UK in the last few decades similarly just represents 'business' as usual for the UK
What the devil are you talking about? England means Angle-land, the Angles being a Germanic tribe who settled here.I always knew OcUK was full of foreigners, first generation born Brits. So obvious with the comments, a true Brit knows His land; the land of our fore Fathers. Do you even know England means the land of Gods new covenant, you would be surprised to find out how many of us still remember.
Nonsense Rome had not had 'centuries' of mass inward migration like it saw in the fourth century onwards.... it had centuries of expansion into new areas itself either killing, Romanising or enslaving the people it conquered not at all the same.
Its as dishonest to claim that the German tribes movement from the third and fourth centuries into Roman lands was 'business as usual' from the Roman state as it is to claim that migration in the UK in the last few decades similarly just represents 'business' as usual for the UK
I said that Rome prospered for centuries with high levels of immigration. The population of Rome was ~50% non-Roman from the middle of the first century.
Either way, the Visigoths who sacked Rome were Romanised. They’d fought in the Roman army and dressed like Romans.
You might fancy reading what academics have to say about immigration and Rome.
You’re treating Germanic invasion as a cause rather than a symptom of Western Roman Empire’s collapse.
It's not immigration if you conquer a bunch of people and incorporate them into your empire.....(the ones that you don't kill or en slave).
I’m sure people from India, Pakistan, the Caribbean and Africa will be delighted that you don’t consider them immigrants to Britain.
Just to be clear: the city of Rome - not the empire as whole - was ~50% non-Roman at the height of its power.