Armed gang violence. What's going on in Liverpool?

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Jay-G25 said:
I very much doubt he will ever be released if he even makes it to 76 , Charles Bronson was just refused parole on a Life sentence and he never actually killed anybody although his crimes were still extremely serious hence the life sentence . I hope this scum bag rots in there or meets an unfortune end at the hands of another prisoner :mad:
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I think Bronsons at the point of being kept in now for his own good.
 
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I had to laugh at Bronson selling a story about having a son, and the son telling a load of guff to the media. Turns out it was all made up and it was someone totally unrelated working with Bronson to make a few grand.
 
danlightbulb said:
Yeah as I said, I always thought 'life' was 15 years for some reason. Maybe that is an old thing that's no longer in place?
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An explanation of the current rules here

The Minimum Term​

When passing a life sentence a judge usually imposes a minimum custodial term (a minimum term order) that must be served before an application can be made for release on parole; once released a defendant will be on licence for the remainder of his/her natural life and may be recalled to prison if considered a risk to the public (this may involve committing a further offence but does not need to).

In the most serious cases of murder, a whole life order can be imposed for defendants aged 21 or over, in which case life does mean life. When this happens there will be no minimum term imposed and the prisoner will not be eligible for release at any time. A prisoner in this situation can only be released by the Home Secretary on compassionate grounds (e.g. due to very poor health).

When a minimum term order is imposed, there is no sentencing guideine for deciding on the appropriate minimum term. Instead, the Sentencing Code (Sentencing Act 2020, sections 321, 322 and Schedule 21) sets out the approach the courts should take.
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Should really be in for the rest of his life tbh.. but sadly we're too soft, he's quite possibly involved in a couple of other murders too. Still, 42 years is better than plenty of other "life" sentences.

I presume his scummy relatives who turned up to watch the trial haven't been charged or convicted with anything despite the change of clothes he borrowed from his friend turning up in a search of his sister's home.

The friend was at least charged with assisting him... it's a bit of an odd situation though, the key witness was the girlfriend of the friend but also someone Cashman had shagged a couple of times and he turned up at her house following the shooting rather than going back to his house & partner.

Also, she's now facing death threats.. classy people these gangster types, the supposed "ex-gangsters" who appear on TV often make claims that they'd not harm women or children yet here is one who killed a child and people helped him try to escape justice and the witness who helped convict him, a woman, has had threats and will go into witness protection.

Jay-G25 said:
I very much doubt he will ever be released if he even makes it to 76 , Charles Bronson was just refused parole on a Life sentence and he never actually killed anybody although his crimes were still extremely serious hence the life sentence . I hope this scum bag rots in there or meets an unfortune end at the hands of another prisoner :mad:
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It's got little relevance to Charles Bronson.

Whether he'll be released is down to how he behaves in prison, whether he's deemed to be safe to release etc.
 
Concurrent sentences are appropriate where offences arise out of the same incident or facts, for example a single incident of dangerous driving resulting in injuries to multiple victims, or where there is a series of offences of the same or similar kind, especially when committed against the same person.
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Watched a good documentary last night about when it all started in Liverpool back in the 60s and talking to some of the old men who were part of it.
It was also interspersed with the latest events.

There was one shocking fact about an estate that was built and it was completely overrun by drugs and it ended up looking like Beirut.
Only 10 years later they knocked it all down.
 
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