Armed gang violence. What's going on in Liverpool?

SexyGreyFox said:
The outside influence was at least 10 complaints of things that weren't serious and I thought I'm getting out of this.
eg A complaint came in from an onlooker that I had stereotyped an Asian lad as a Muslim by asking him.....[SNIP]
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As soon as I saw the username I knew it would be for 'inappropriate touching'
 
Uther said:
It's always useful to say the colour of said scumbag when looking for them. Something the police seem unable to do on occasion.
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Reporting for a purpose is different to "thinking". You're a strange type of replier aren't you.
 
Tony Edwards said:
We just need many more police, more prisons and more judges/courts and more targeted police groups like gangs, drugs and the other acts that dominate most crimes.

I say just, but we really need a hell of a lot more police policing.
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At this point more officers just means more capacity for the police to absorb the failings of social services and NHS; there needs to be some fundamental changes in the way all these systems work. Despite what you see regurgitated by the usual names both on here and social media, the vast majority of policing time isn't spent checking Twitter for mean words or dancing at pride festivals, it's dealing with mental health, low-level domestic issues and social care issues. These things are an absolutely staggering drain on resources, and the police are not the best-equipped or trained service to be dealing with them either.
 
TheVoice said:
At this point more officers just means more capacity for the police to absorb the failings of social services and NHS; there needs to be some fundamental changes in the way all these systems work. Despite what you see regurgitated by the usual names both on here and social media, the vast majority of policing time isn't spent checking Twitter for mean words or dancing at pride festivals, it's dealing with mental health, low-level domestic issues and social care issues. These things are an absolutely staggering drain on resources, and the police are not the best-equipped or trained service to be dealing with them either.
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Whilst I think front line police numbers must improve you're absolutely spot on - and I'm a former Police Officer.
 
TheVoice said:
At this point more officers just means more capacity for the police to absorb the failings of social services and NHS; there needs to be some fundamental changes in the way all these systems work. Despite what you see regurgitated by the usual names both on here and social media, the vast majority of policing time isn't spent checking Twitter for mean words or dancing at pride festivals, it's dealing with mental health, low-level domestic issues and social care issues. These things are an absolutely staggering drain on resources, and the police are not the best-equipped or trained service to be dealing with them either.
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You wont see me arguing against that.
 
IIRC some countries have in effect two police forces, one that does the normal low level stuff, and the heavy mob that does the street shootouts.
Maybe that's what needs to happen.
 
Haha skipped to death squads directly after posts where social and mental health "squads" were so heavily hinted... So close.

Gotta love this forum sometimes :D
 
Le Clandestin Brun said:
Haha skipped to death squads directly after posts where social and mental health "squads" were so heavily hinted... So close.

Gotta love this forum sometimes :D
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A question I keep asking and cannot get an answer to is why we seemingly have such a big 'mental health crisis' at the minute.
If we had the same for physical health there would be people looking at the causes and coming up with solutions.
Or are the causes known and the solutions just unpalatable?
 
Uther said:
Nice chap.Wonder if not letting them out early would help at all.
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Who is Joseph Nee - the target of gunman who killed Olivia Pratt-Korbel in Liverpool shooting?

Joseph Nee, 35, was freed from prison on licence last year, it is understood, when he was automatically released part-way through a fixed jail term.
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Of course it would but our courts and judges are pathetic.
You can't harm the public from prison. Short sentences are also proven to do nothing to reduce recedence.
 
Dis86 said:
A question I keep asking and cannot get an answer to is why we seemingly have such a big 'mental health crisis' at the minute.
If we had the same for physical health there would be people looking at the causes and coming up with solutions.
Or are the causes known and the solutions just unpalatable?
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Mental health issues became the new (and more enveloping) go to after the "bad back" ages ago, do try and keep up ;)
 
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