Poll: As a third party, is it okay to cheat?

As person C, is it okay to sleep with person A?

  • Hell yes!

    Votes: 81 17.6%

  • No, it's wrong.

    Votes: 291 63.4%

  • Pancake.

    Votes: 87 19.0%
  • Total voters
    459
Well US is the sort of culture i can imagine where cheating is quite high, as they practicaly glorify cheating in TV shows (which is actually what the 30-60% is refering to). Also if they took that statistic from research done on older generation then it would also be higher. The statistic reference is taken from researched based on someone's first year of marriage too, where like business, is the most common time of failure.

That site can be good but most fact pages are just clickbait not describing the content of the research source.

Your original statement of men not respecting relationship just proves what you think, nothing else.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Well US is the sort of culture i can imagine where cheating is quite high, as they practicaly glorify cheating in TV shows (which is actually what the 30-60% is refering to). Also if they took that statistic from research done on older generation then it would also be higher.

Your original statement of men not respecting relationship just proves what you think, nothing else.
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So you think the UK is different?

http://www.yourtango.com/experts/miss-rosie-freeman-jones/uks-largest-survey-infidelity

Burnsy2023 said:
Which is interesting, but irrelevant to the point you are trying to counter.
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It's not though is it, CLEARLY if so much cheating goes on then most Men don't even respect when someone's married, let alone boyfriend and girlfriend.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
IMO there is always something that can be done to avoid cheating. If She is treated badly or doesn't get her fill, then communicate with your partner. because communicating with an abusive partner is going to sort things out? If they want to leave the relationship, then tell your partner. If your partner is not capable then discuss options openly. - what about mitigating factors for not being able to leave a relationship, staying for the kids or as above abusive partner/fear

The act of cheating requires going behind your partners back (and person's C :D) regardless of the justification or the reasons. Transparency in these matters prior to the cheating can often resolve issues one way or another. - in an ideal world, we don't live in an ideal world
If i felt the need to cheat, i would talk to my partner why i am unhappy about this or that. If they cant come to terms with it and wont budge, then either I settle with what i have already or move on.

What reasons could justify cheating above other options?

I wouldn't say i respect other peoples relationship but rather i can empathise with Person B.
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I can empathise with person B too, but I am not going to put the feelings of a stranger above my own - selfish of me? probably. does that make me a horrible person, or an in-decent human being? I don't think so, and most that know me would attest to that
 
Roar87 said:
It's not though is it, CLEARLY if so much cheating goes on then most Men don't even respect when someone's married, let alone boyfriend and girlfriend.
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Like I said before, it takes two to tango. It also assumes that the other guy knows about the relationship.
 
Not necessarily but other cultures like the Phillipines and such are. Your fact sources is taken from research with a context in your arguments favour, yet you and the website fails to mention the context. Do you not check the sources or did you just assume the 'facts' were unbiased?
 
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Thekwango said:
I can empathise with person B too, but I am not going to put the feelings of a stranger above my own - selfish of me? probably. does that make me a horrible person, or an in-decent human being? I don't think so, and most that know me would attest to that
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The act itself is indecent regardless. People arn't bad, just some of the things they do. If someone does a lot of bad, we usually describe the person as bad but thats just an oversimplification you cant make.

You may not put your needs above a stranger but i can understand that it also causes issues for person A down the line and her not knowing better is not a free pass for me to mess around with peoples families. I am not that strongly opinionated on it, i just dont think its worth it and have had plenty of opportunity to do so.
 
Yup sample is from just over 200 people who have been married for under a year with only 4% with children. Research and published studies which are controversial and offer seemingly definitive results often attract too much attention. Statistics mentioned seem to be pulled from other studies to make an empirical estimate. 30-60% is a joke of a statistic to publish and in my field would be considered inconclusive at best. I didn't read the whole article simply because it felt like a weak read off the bat
 
[TW]Fox;28838982 said:
30-60%? That is such a broad statistic it cannot be anything other than humorously pointless.

Is it 30% or is it 60%? The two numbers are leagues apart!
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His post is just as broad as the "85% of rapes aren't reported" Well if they aren't reported how do you know they happened?

No statistics should be based on a person speculation especially that of someone who is biased towards a cause.
 
Moving from one pointless side tangent to another:

If cheating is so bad that you could "never respect" anyone that does it - it is so disgustingly harmful and a violation of person B - why isn't it a crime? /cheatception

(A semi-rhetorical question!)
 
Nix said:
People are missing the point:

As person C is aware of the relationship between A and B, they know the consequence of their actions by sleeping with A -- although technically not cheating themselves -- will cause trauma and pain for B regardless if they have any responsibility because they 'know' them. Being a stranger doesn't mean that the hurt is diminished, it just means you can pretend it didn't happen; out of sight out of mind.

By sleeping with A, C is hurting B because they are aware of the relationship between A and B.
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yes but as a generic moral issue there are lots of factors that can swing it from yes to no

with marriage, kids and no intention of A&C having a new relationship together seeming to be a strong 'Yes' from most people through to A&B being young and just dating and A deciding she'd actually rather be with C... being a No and for some people

fact is B is going to be hurt regardless of whether it crosses into some technical 'cheating' depending on what point you consider 'cheating' to have occurred in that second scenario - bottom line in that one though is that A isn't the property of B and has made no long term commitments - it is still better overall that A gets to be with the person she'd prefer to be with and that B isn't still with someone who has upon reflection decided she didn't like him that much after all. She can hook up with C (the relationship being over form her perspective) and then dump B the next day and in the eyes of some she'd have cheated... or she can split up with B and then hook up with C (so not cheating) - either way B gets dumped, told she has met someone new and is hurt.... the fact that B is hurt either way should illustrate that isn't necessarily the deciding factor in whether A & C getting together is morally wrong on C's part since C's mere existence and friendship with A could in itself cause her to end the relationship with B. If A has chosen to end it with B then that is the important part IMO.
 
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It's wrong, doesn't mean I wouldn't do it though.

A lot would depend on whether I know the guy, whether he's a douche etc.
 
Person A and C should get jiggy. And invite person B in for 'an experience'.

Or just do nothing because person A is an idiot. Person C is single so they are not really harming anything although personally I wouldn't but if person A wants C then A+B won't last = A+C..
 
Depends on the relationship. If the female in the relationship for example doesn't wish to have a physical relationship anymore then I can't blame a guy for getting it some where else.

Sometimes it might be justifiable and sometimes maybe it won't.

If a relationship gets to that point though then they are best off just going their separate ways imo.
 
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