Von,
Please go check post 251 of this thread, where I've quoted you.
In it, you state "...is in fact really stupid...".
So please don't tell me that I've missed something. Just because you're trying to back down from calling me stupid by trying to ignore it is NOT going to get you off the hook.
If you're careless enough to wander way over the wrong side of the line, you deserve to be picked up on it.
You are still not reading it, I think, you just want to pick up a fight, any fight.
What does that quote say?
The idea that you can replace playtime with your kids with superket shopping -
the notion, the way of raising, the philosophy of "don't have to go to swings, don't have to go to zoo, I can kill two birds with one stone and get to run the kid around till he's tired AND do shopping in the same time" is in fact really stupid and sloppy way to raise kids. That's what that line says. I didn't call you or anybody else stupid, it wasn't direct hit, it was indirect, non personal generalization. In fact, I wasn't even replying to anything you wrote, so I don't know how you could even pick it as a "direct hit".
That's my opinion though - I live in chav capital of the world, this is the parenting model I see every weekend and strongly disagree with. Yesterday I had a row with my neighbour, about his collection of tesco shopping trolleys on our common bit of pavement. Everytime he goes shopping with his brat he brings another trolley, next to shoppings in his old SUV, "for kid
s to have fun with". He takes the trolley out of the car, and puts their shoppings inside then rolls the trolley between driveway and door with the kid in fold away child seat. That's the "fun" part. They then push the trolley to the end of the driveway, onto the pavement and leave it there, like the trolleys were to chain themselves together at night and skate back to the shop few miles away on their own. But the kid has "fun" for all 2 minutes every sunday. The part where daddy "borrows" shop propery and forgets to take it back is not important. The simple "Daddy is not going through all the hustle to steal this trolley so you can ride in it for few minutes at home" anwser doesn't suffice. "Kid wants, kid gets" is somehow the way. Kid wants to scream, why should parents intervene, kid wants to kick trolleys, why should daddy feel embarassed and be apologetic. And when you reach the stage where dad steals the entire trolley, goes through all the trouble to pack it into the boot, without anyone noticing etc, because that's what kid wants, the once simple rules of engagement of "you are responsible for your little ones" doesn't come into play anymore. It's one way interaction from this point onwards.
Not to mention the lot are on benefits and dont' work, but they will religiously join everyone on weekend in supermarket, like they were "busy" doing nothing all week long and simply MUST do shopping with full family specifically on Sunday. "The event" at Tescos mentality at its best.
'm not trying to get off the hook, if this is how you rise your kids, and you feel insulted by me calling that model of upbringing where sunday shopping is the quality time with dad - stupid, then I'm sorry, but that's how I feel. I don't think anyone would call it a right choice.
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