Unfortunately, a lot of people. This has been front page news on the BBC website since yesterday afternoon and all over Sky News.
I personally think it's being tied to Harry and Meghan, and that's why.
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Unfortunately, a lot of people. This has been front page news on the BBC website since yesterday afternoon and all over Sky News.
I personally think it's being tied to Harry and Meghan, and that's why.
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If you look through her twitter history she seems to have mental health issues.
She says police warned her in 2021 to stop calling the ambulance service otherwise they would arrest her.
Luckily there’s free thinking people like you to teach manners.
No. Hair is a particular sensitive subject for black women due to the way they've been judged over the years for not having European hair for not having straight hair it also has a lot of importance within African culture. So when for a large part of your life you get told having your hair in its natural form is messy, ugly or unprofessional you will gain a sense of pride with it. Even if you look at things like 'dreadlocks' you wont find many black people who call locks by that name because even that term is derived from 'dreadful locks'. You even see the effect today with plenty of black women choosing to use harmful chemicals on their hair to 'fit in' and not embracing their curls.
Sometimes just try and see life through the lens of people who have had to deal with these sorts of things. I went to a basically white secondary school. There was myself, 1 other black guy and 2 Asian girls. In year 7 I went to the school with a fairly big Afro. By year 8 I had cut it off as I was fed up of people grabbing it or trying to stick pens in it for a laugh. These things add up over time. There's a whole debate about 'good hair' in the black community you may laugh it off as not being important but that just means it's not important to you If you don't care to understand why it's of importance to some people, that's fine. But don't just try and brush it away as if it doesn't matter.
She did answer it. She told her where she is from, the UK. It's not her fault the person asking a question wasn't smart enough to say what she meant. Why should she have to decipher what the other person means because they couldn't be bothered to ask the correct question.
Then just say "sorry do you mind moving you hair so I can see your badge". It's not difficult. You don't just take it on yourself to move someones hair regardless of sex or race. That's just something you don't do,.
I graciously decline.
Yesterday the "victim" was quoted as saying she hadnt wanted the old girl to resign and she was an "elder" and they respect elders in her culture.
Roll on 24 hours and she is claiming "abuse" and has been "violated" by the incident.
If she didnt want the 83 yr old to resign does she also not want her to be tried for racist abuse and violating her ?
I think people need to get a grip before this all gets wildly out of hand.
Roll on 24 hours and she is claiming "abuse" and has been "violated" by the incident.
If she didnt want the 83 yr old to resign does she also not want her to be tried for racist abuse and violating her ?
I think people need to get a grip before this all gets wildly out of hand.
@Junglist What youve described there impacts white women too. Its not a purely black woman issue. Infact it also affects men. Yes there has, in some countries and more particularly some social groups, been a focus on straight fair hair but that generally niche or done for. Take issue with those who have those prejudices, don't take issue with everyone.
People are talking about outdated and archaic cultures and this is a display of that from both sides.
Until both sides let go of their hang ups then racism isn't going to go away, especially when people look for it where it doesn't exist.
People are talking about outdated and archaic cultures and this is a display of that from both sides.
Until both sides let go of their hang ups then racism isn't going to go away, especially when people look for it where it doesn't exist.
Moving someone’s hair to look at their name badge is ****ing odd. Just introduce yourself and ask their name, no biggie.
Touching a person without consent sends a message that they haven’t even contemplated your personal space, or wishes.
I think Ngozi comes across as very competent in the 1:37 long clip on the BBC at the moment:
It does sound pretty hurtful in that account… having someone not accepting your answer that you’re British.
Touching a person without consent sends a message that they haven’t even contemplated your personal space, or wishes.
I think Ngozi comes across as very competent in the 1:37 long clip on the BBC at the moment:
Ngozi Fulani: Lady Susan Hussey's race comments were abuse, says charity boss
Ngozi Fulani tells the BBC her encounter with Lady Susan Hussey was like an "interrogation".
www.bbc.co.uk
It does sound pretty hurtful in that account… having someone not accepting your answer that you’re British.
I explicitly said all women take their hair very seriously. I am giving you some context as to why, in particular, black women are very precious about their hair. But the difference in this case is that at present, white women aren't exactly judged for their hair on the same level. That's not even going into the other stereotypes black women have, and it's been mentioned in here already, but that's not an argument I fancy getting into.
Ah yes, both sides need to let go of their hang ups. If it were that simple
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I think it's funny that suddenly people like GB news are looking in to this woman's finances. She earns a living working for a charity!!! Can you imagine. 
Ultimate whataboutism.
What has that got to do with the story?
Ultimate whataboutism.
What has that got to do with the story?
Ahhhh so one minute shes british then the next shes saying "her culture".... i thought you were british?.... make you're mind up love... Anyone with half a brain can see shes milking this for some money for her charity.
yes the old dear might be a bit doddery but how hard is it to say "i was born in britain but i have parents/grandparents from *insert country here*..... or does she think she is 20th generation celtic ?
I am white british but with irish and italian heritage... dont see what the big fuss is about.
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Because if someone said "where are you from" and you said UK it's highly unlikely they'll say to you "No but where are you really from" - which is what the whole issue is about.I am white british but with irish and italian heritage... dont see what the big fuss is about.
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Thats you out then.
Lady Susan Hussey asked me about my 'heritage' too, says former chief prosecutor
Nazir Afzal, a British solicitor, says aide to late Queen questioned his background during Buckingham Palace reception at centre of race rowwww.telegraph.co.uk
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There's an old saying that I have long found accurate. Give someone enough rope and they'll hang themselves. I have made a little wager with myself, this heritage coy woman will do just that, and in the not too distant future. Her bile has pushed herself into the limelight, and I believe it will be her and her charity's undoing. Let's see...
I have actually because i have distinctive italian features but you didnt bother to find out and just "assumed" what i looked like.... see this game is easy, i can now call you a bigot for assuming my appearance.... lol
Yes there is an issue with one old lady being insensitive and now its being turned into "THE ROYALS ARE ALL RACIST BLAHHH BLAHHH" its utterly bonkers..... shes now saying she was subject to "violence" i mean come on!
Utter farce and just shows how far down the rabbit hole we are falling.
Right but the context you've given again impacts women that aren't black. You've mentioned being judged for their hair but I cannot honestly believe any normal human interviewing a black woman for a job (for example) would be even subconsciously think...oooof, you're great but that curly hair of yours...naaaah. If it's an industry thing (movie industry for example) then that industry needs to be challenged, not you or I!
There are absolutely instances of people projecting their past negative experiences. That is prejudice and it needs to go. I gave an example to @Craterloads in this thread about one of my first encounters with a friend of mine which exactly shows that. I know why he had his initial reaction, fully understand it, it doesn't mean he was right to react that way.
I was actually thinking that. Given your heritage there's a chance of very dark hair and dark eyes. Possibly olive skin tone.
I didn't make an assumption on your appearance or features. I made one based on your race which you told everyone. Not been called a bigot before so that's something ticked off at least
Im only joking just making a point... i cant put irish italian white british can i? race is no longer a simple thing to declare.t
I am "white" i was also born in britain to persons with british citizenship, but my heritage is Irish and Italian..... my features are more mediterranean than anything else but if a cursory glance was the decider i would be classed a white rather than non white. But i am not a celtic decendant so im not white british? all gets very confusing when we mix race and nationality and heritage.
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