Asking someone where they are from

I’ve not read this whole thread but the last couple of pages are pretty astonishing really.

It’s incredible the lengths that racist people will go to to pretend that something racist, isn’t racist.

I personally think that older people, who are from a different time, should be given a fair bit of leeway with this sort of thing.

But kidding yourself that it’s not racist, even if there was no particularly overtly racist intent, is just silly.
racist to ask where someones from?

so when you move city and someone says "you don't sound like you're from around here, where are you from?" do you scream REEE RACIST? they must think I'm from albania
 
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yes - I can't see why you would want to touch a strangers hair .. remnants of the primitive species grooming instinct.

Meghan must be giving her a back hander as an adjunct to their coincidental film trailer

Do you regard a handshake as a remnant of the primitive species grooming instinct? A handshake is much more intrusive than moving a bit of hair aside because it's covering a name badge.

I have random people touching me often. It's part of the custom around here. I'd prefer that they didn't, but I'm not going to pretend it's some vile form of assault/racism/heresy/counter-revolutionary behaviour or whatever.
 
Just pointing out the facts. We know from other recent threads that you don't like to deal with them.

Don't try facts and logic here, you need to mindlessly accept stuff like this... in this case it's "racist" to ask about someone's heritage. No explanation about why it's inherently racist to do so of course. At best, some people have focused on some analysis of something being presented as though it's a transcript but in reality, is a several-line recollection from memory of the interaction...

That recollection from memory just happens to contain the well-used trope "but where are you really from", she may have used that exact phrase, we don't know for sure, but sure, it's totally plausible she's asked about heritage in a way that has caused offense:


There's also the hair-touching trope, black women in the west apparently can be very sensitive about hair, as multiple articles explained to us following this incident:

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Why might the Lady in waiting be looking at the name badge (and apparently touching her hair in the process), well because she has an unusual name: She was born Marlene Headly but has since changed her name to Ngozi Fulani.

She's basically LARPing a little bit at this point; Marlene Headly from Hackney went to Buckingham Place as Ngozi Fulani, dressed like she's from Africa and people are wondering why she might have been asked about her heritage?

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The black woman to the right of her in the photo isn't in anything resembling some sort of African national dress and is called Caroline - did she get the same heritage questions? Could it possibly be that it's the name + costume which prompted the curiosity??? Being curious about heritage is not racist, asking about it in an awkward way may well be rude but that's about it.


Of course, she's since come out with disingenuous claims that she didn't want to name the person despite basically naming them anyway... is there some other motive? Well we know she loves publicity in her other disputes + apparently she's not a fan of the Royals anyway and has bought into "wokeness" (running a racially segregated women's shelter that's pretty much guaranteed).

She's already accused Charles and Camilla of domestic violence towards Megan (which seems completely unhinged):

Also, I wonder if Chris's comparison might not be too far off:

The woman, for some reasons, reminds me of Camila Batmanghelidjh. Another charity CEO that liked and hit the media. Then too many questions were asked for which she had no defining answers and her world and charitable status fell apart...

An apparent victim claimed she wasn't helped because of "privilege" + a claim that this woman is the only paid employee + racked up expenses... maybe just a bit of muck swinging tbh.. but I guess she's drawn lots of attention to herself now:
 
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racist to ask where someones from?

so when you move city and someone says "you don't sound like you're from around here, where are you from?" do you scream REEE RACIST? they must think I'm from albania

I don't think he's applied much thought to it, he tends to just repeat whatever the (initial) mainstream narrative is on a subject.
 
I’ve not read this whole thread but the last couple of pages are pretty astonishing really.

It’s incredible the lengths that racist people will go to to pretend that something racist, isn’t racist.

I personally think that older people, who are from a different time, should be given a fair bit of leeway with this sort of thing.

But kidding yourself that it’s not racist, even if there was no particularly overtly racist intent, is just silly.
Extremely mildly racist.
 
I don't think he's applied much thought to it, he tends to just repeat whatever the (initial) mainstream narrative is on a subject.

"Anyone who disagrees with me, just blindly follows the mainstream narrative"

Oh Dowie, you are so edgy and different. How is it possible that you can always see the deep nuance in everything. You just keep up the good fight against that evil mainstream media.
 
So, we’re backing the over privileged old nana and vilifying the lady on the end of these comments? Got it. Stay Tory folks you’re the last ones left :D

Wait until you find out the queen was part German and married a Greek!

The Daily Mail is doing a great job distracting you from the utter mess the country is in, but go ahead, channel the faux outrage at this.
 
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Sure Jono, let us all just follow the woke mob and support this sort of run to the media/generate outrage over trivial social interactions deemed to be verboten.

“Annoyed of Tunbridge Wells” is truly annoyed. 1 “woke” and 1 “nazi insinuation”. Wait until you hear about non-white MPs!
 
“Annoyed of Tunbridge Wells” is truly annoyed. 1 “woke” and 1 “nazi insinuation”. Wait until you hear about non-white MPs!

You're doing a good job of making the position you're supposedly supporting look very bad. Is that deliberate? Are you actually arguing against it by making it look bad?
 
“Annoyed of Tunbridge Wells” is truly annoyed. 1 “woke” and 1 “nazi insinuation”. Wait until you hear about non-white MPs!

You seem to have it muddled, my point is that this is a grift, it shouldn't need to have even generated so much press coverage.
 
A lot of people are caveating their replies with "If she even really did say that"

Even though there were independent witnesses who have verified it and the 83 year old lady, didn't dispute it at all and stepped down...
 
You're doing a good job of making the position you're supposedly supporting look very bad. Is that deliberate? Are you actually arguing against it by making it look bad?

Thanks for the adjudication.

I’m glad the overtly privileged get called out. They’ve feasted on the back of people who actually do useful things with their day. Their moral compass is from 1750. With that in mind the serf like defence from normal people tells a story.

Finally anyone who says “woke” in any context, on any ”side” can’t articulate their argument IMO.

I’m only reacting to the reactions not publishing the article.
 
protective in what way ... I think the average British person looks at these braids/locks and wonders, in ignorance ? how you would maintain it and keep it clean.
They protect the hair from breakage and keeping the moisture in. It's part of the reason I have my hair short these days cause I'm lazy and can't be bothered with the upkeep
 
No can do. What was once a simple ice breaker or piece of small talk is now strictly forbidden…. If you are a white person asking a non white person you should take note- it is not acceptable to do so in 2022.
 
racist to ask where someones from?

Yes, if you do so repeatedly, having had the question answered multiple times; including one instance of asking what part of Africa someone is from based upon the colour of their skin; it's racist.

I don't think that the woman had any specific intent to be as such and I slightly differ from some posters here with regards to the way I think this sort of stuff should be handled with significantly older folk, but it absolutely is racist.

All the rest of this hilarious squirming from other people however, is little more than obfuscation and denial; they appear to me to be trying a little too hard to absolve this woman of the charge of racism, presumably as a defensive cope because they themselves likely engage in similar behaviours.

I suspect that on some level their defense of her, is a defense of themselves.

Anyway, I'll lose absolutely no sleep over the barrage of frothy coping responses i'll get to this comment, from people who in all likelihood, are a bit racist themselves, but who don't want to admit it. Those responses will just add continued weight to my argument.
 
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