ASROCK X570 TAICHI - THE RYZEN 3000 MOTHERBOARD GIBBO & 8 PACK RECOMMENDS

Woodsta888 · 14 May 2020 at 16:35

Panos said:
Agree. With 3.0 bios update today, found the opportunity to tinker with the system today, tightening up few loose ram settings. Can take now 3800 14-14-14-14-28 with the ram voltage at 1.38 not 1.404 like before. (tFaw 16, tRFC 285)

Also played with 3866 16-16-16-16-32 but need to tweak the settings bit more. My 3900X can take 1933 IF

That is impressive @ 3800Mhz! What RAM you got?

Panos · 14 May 2020 at 17:01

Woodsta888 said:
That is impressive @ 3800Mhz! What RAM you got?

5y old Gskill Ripjaws 3600C16. Can do 4133C16 with Intel CPUs

Woodsta888 · 14 May 2020 at 17:23

Panos said:
5y old Gskill Ripjaws 3600C16. Can do 4133C16 with Intel CPUs

5 years old! Well, that's been an investment I must say. How much was it when you bought it? Sorry, I'm interested.

Panos · 14 May 2020 at 17:26

Woodsta888 said:
5 years old! Well, that's been an investment I must say. How much was it when you bought it? Sorry, I'm interested.

£124.85 according to the shop history

Same applies to the Superflower 1000W Platinum PSU. Bought it for £105 back in September 2014 and has worked pretty hard all those years.

Woodsta888 · 14 May 2020 at 21:44

Really! Just shows price increases across all components doesn't it? Many usually eying Gfx cards and CPU prices, but just shows!

Panos · 14 May 2020 at 22:46

Woodsta888 said:
Really! Just shows price increases across all components doesn't it? Many usually eying Gfx cards and CPU prices, but just shows!

Yep. This similar kit was over £250-290 during 17-18 period also. Let alone there are worse kits on the markets at this price (usually 3600C18-19)

This year the prices have dropped having seen the 4400C19 Patriot for £144 if remember correctly.

beany_bot · 16 May 2020 at 12:43

Is there any downside to putting my GPU in the slot below the normal one? I.e. not blocking the chipset fan? I belive they are all x16

K4Y84 · 16 May 2020 at 12:59

beany_bot said:
Is there any downside to putting my GPU in the slot below the normal one? I.e. not blocking the chipset fan? I belive they are all x16

3 x PCI Express 4.0 x16 Slots (PCIE1/PCIE3/PCIE5: single at x16 (PCIE1); dual at x8 (PCIE1) / x8 (PCIE3); triple at x8 (PCIE1) / x8 (PCIE3) / x4 (PCIE5))*

This is what is on the Asrock spec page... Make of it what you will.

beany_bot · 16 May 2020 at 13:41

K4Y84 said:
This is what is on the Asrock spec page... Make of it what you will.

I cant make head nor tail of it lol.

Joxeon · 16 May 2020 at 13:46

Pretty sure if you use the lower slot it will run at pcie 4.0 x8 instead of x16 so would effectively be like a pcie 3.0 x16 and shouldn't impact Gpu performance at all.

K4Y84 · 16 May 2020 at 14:19

Joxeon said:
Pretty sure if you use the lower slot it will run at pcie 4.0 x8 instead of x16 so would effectively be like a pcie 3.0 x16 and shouldn't impact Gpu performance at all.

Doesn't quite work like that, if the slot is 8x for example, it will run at pice 4 x8 with a pcie x4 card in it and at pcie 3 x8 with a pcie 3 card in it. Yes it's true that pcie x4 has twice as much bandwidth, but only if it had a pcie 4 card in play.

K4Y84 · 16 May 2020 at 14:24

beany_bot said:
I cant make head nor tail of it lol.

We'll all 3 of the slots are physically x16, with the 1st slot being the only one running at x16 if more than 1 slot is in use, but whether the next slot down will run at x16 with the first slot empty will depend on if its traces are wired as x16 and also how Asrock has designed their firmware. There is a pcie slot benchmark you can run before and after which will tell you if there is any difference - depending on your card a x8 slot may not even make a difference. Let me go check my BIOS to see if there are options to set the PCIE speed.

Panos · 16 May 2020 at 15:18

beany_bot said:
Is there any downside to putting my GPU in the slot below the normal one? I.e. not blocking the chipset fan? I belive they are all x16

If you have pcie 4.0 GPU none. It will work at 8x and you won't see any difference.
However if you have pcie3 GPU depends.

beany_bot · 16 May 2020 at 15:31

Depends on what? I have a gtx 1080.

fizzy · 16 May 2020 at 17:39

K4Y84 said:
We'll all 3 of the slots are physically x16, with the 1st slot being the only one running at x16 if more than 1 slot is in use, but whether the next slot down will run at x16 with the first slot empty will depend on if its traces are wired as x16 and also how Asrock has designed their firmware. There is a pcie slot benchmark you can run before and after which will tell you if there is any difference - depending on your card a x8 slot may not even make a difference. Let me go check my BIOS to see if there are options to set the PCIE speed.

I checked the board when moving cards around before. The top slot is fully wired, the 2nd slot is only wired for half the connections (so 8x slot) and the bottom only 4x - you can tell by looking at the number of actual pins in the slot. So there are physical slot limits even when moving a single card. So moving my gpu to middle slot would limit it to 8x even with no card in top slot. I did do this for a while so the chipset fan wasn't blocked but eventually moved it back to top slot after seeing the wiring differences.

beany_bot · 17 May 2020 at 06:59

So, we are certain of this? Moving the GPU down will affect gaming performance?

Panos · 17 May 2020 at 08:00

beany_bot said:
So, we are certain of this? Moving the GPU down will affect gaming performance?

beany_bot said:
Depends on what? I have a gtx 1080.

Your card will be operating at pcie 8x so you will lose 1%-2% fps from the games.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2488-pci-e-3-x8-vs-x16-performance-impact-on-gpus

Doobedoo · 17 May 2020 at 08:56

beany_bot said:
Is there any downside to putting my GPU in the slot below the normal one? I.e. not blocking the chipset fan? I belive they are all x16

Might be worth sending Asrock an email because although the specs imply you should be fine we have contradictory information being posted.

3 x PCI Express 4.0 x16 Slots (PCIE1/PCIE3/PCIE5. That implies that slot 1,3&5 are all x16 slots if used with one card only.

fizzy · 17 May 2020 at 15:01

Took a pic of my middle slot for info - notice the pins stop half way along slot.

Manual is a bit more descriptive but a still a little confusing :-

"3 x PCI Express 4.0 x16 slots (PCIE1/PCIE3/PCIE5: single at x16 (PCIE1); dual at x8 (PCIE1) / x8 (PCIE3); Triple at x8 (PCIE1) / x8 (PCIE3) / x4 (PCIE5))*"

Surely if PCIE5 is only x4, how can it be triple at x8?

K4Y84 · 17 May 2020 at 15:10

fizzy said:
Surely if PCIE5 is only x4, how can it be triple at x8?

It says triple at 8x/8x/4x.