ASROCK X570 TAICHI - THE RYZEN 3000 MOTHERBOARD GIBBO & 8 PACK RECOMMENDS

[Minstadave]

Panos when you run R20 single core does it load one core or jump around? I'm still trying to figure out the poor boosting and low R20 scores I get.

When I run R20 SC I get the load jumping across 4 cores:

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

No idea about these x570 boards people are having issues with, but other than really slow bios releases, my x470 taichi has been awesome. Great for memory overclocking and seems really well built.

 

[Shac]

@Minstadave the load jumps around from core to core.
For me generally 2 cores get loaded more than any others.

One run I recall 90% of the time was on one core but from my testing that is very rare.

 

[Minstadave]

@Minstadave the load jumps around from core to core.
For me generally 2 cores get loaded more than any others.

One run I recall 90% of the time was on one core but from my testing that is very rare.

Cheers.

 

[Panos]

Panos when you run R20 single core does it load one core or jump around? I'm still trying to figure out the poor boosting and low R20 scores I get.

When I run R20 SC I get the load jumping across 4 cores:

It jumps between CCD0 CCX1 Core 5 and Core 3 only. C5 does 4605-4625 and C3 4525 max. It never uses Core 4 which does ~4600. (C5 & C4 are my strongest cores).
However when playing X4 which is hammering 2 cores at 100% constant load, it sticks on C5 and C4 of the CCD0 and at 4605Mhz. Only on some warm days goes to 4575.

Tried to test with SMT off and things go weird, as it hits 4650 on C5 but then uses C2 at 4500 and jumping between CCX hurts score a lot.

 

[Minstadave]

It jumps between CCD0 CCX1 Core 5 and Core 3 only. C5 does 4605-4625 and C3 4525 max. It never uses Core 4 which does ~4600. (C5 & C4 are my strongest cores).
However when playing X4 which is hammering 2 cores at 100% constant load, it sticks on C5 and C4 of the CCD0 and at 4605Mhz. Only on some warm days goes to 4575.

Tried to test with SMT off and things go weird, as it hits 4650 on C5 but then uses C2 at 4500 and jumping between CCX hurts score a lot.

Mine just won't behave that way. Going to wait for the next BIOS update before wasting anymore time trying to fix it.

 

[Panos]

Mine just won't behave that way. Going to wait for the next BIOS update before wasting anymore time trying to fix it.

Have you activated Preferred cores in BIOS?

 

[Minstadave]

Have you activated Preferred cores in BIOS?

Yeah CPPC and CPPC Preferred Cores both on. Tried a BIOS reset. Removed Ryzen Master. Tried XFR on and PBO off.

Tried latest Ryzen Balanced and 1usmus power plans.

Of the 2 1usmus plans which do you use? I think Universal is the one to use with post 1909 Windows.

 

[Panos]

Yeah CPPC and CPPC Preferred Cores both on. Tried a BIOS reset. Removed Ryzen Master. Tried XFR on and PBO off.

Tried latest Ryzen Balanced and 1usmus power plans.

Of the 2 1usmus plans which do you use? I think Universal is the one to use with post 1909 Windows.

v1.1 Universal.

Try the Community Power Plan v3 also. Just in case

 

[Shac]

@Minstadave
What CB 20 score do you currently get?
Which bios version?
What are your core temps and speeds during CB20 run?
What core voltages?
XFR and PBO settings?
Any manual settings entered for PPT etc?
From my testing memory tuning has very little affect with CB20 its all about your core speeds.

If you have had any Bios problems which I did a few times after reaching too far with overclocking (even to the point of not booting)
I found the only way to prevent them continuing to affect things is to flash the Taichi by using a USB stick in the bios flash usb port.
This is the only way to overwrite EVERYTIHNG to ensure all is as it should be.
Doing it this way erases any saved profiles because a lot of people seem to have issues trying to use previous saves on a new version bios.
Things can then get screwy and the problems will persist.
If you use the normal flash process from within the bios it does NOT erase the previous bios saves.

This file is a CB20 run of mine showing cores 0 and 1 doing the majority of the processing.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdsUgQ81XO2sm_bnrg?e=Qwp4Qg

You can see the history of my single core CB20 runs and I started at 420 which I was horrified at after seeing other peoples scores.
My current best CB20 SC is 544 but that setting is not my daily driver and I do not think it will be beaten by a 3900X at least.

 

[Minstadave]

@Minstadave
What CB 20 score do you currently get?
Which bios version?
What are your core temps and speeds during CB20 run?
What core voltages?
XFR and PBO settings?
Any manual settings entered for PPT etc?
From my testing memory tuning has very little affect with CB20 its all about your core speeds.

If you have had any Bios problems which I did a few times after reaching too far with overclocking (even to the point of not booting)
I found the only way to prevent them continuing to affect things is to flash the Taichi by using a USB stick in the bios flash usb port.
This is the only way to overwrite EVERYTIHNG to ensure all is as it should be.
Doing it this way erases any saved profiles because a lot of people seem to have issues trying to use previous saves on a new version bios.
Things can then get screwy and the problems will persist.
If you use the normal flash process from within the bios it does NOT erase the previous bios saves.

This file is a CB20 run of mine showing cores 0 and 1 doing the majority of the processing.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdsUgQ81XO2sm_bnrg?e=Qwp4Qg

You can see the history of my single core CB20 runs and I started at 420 which I was horrified at after seeing other peoples scores.
My current best CB20 SC is 544 but that setting is not my daily driver and I do not think it will be beaten by a 3900X at least.

BIOS 2.73 currently

With a small undervolt and LLC Level 4 I get just under 7100 MC and 498 SC.

Temps mid 70s.

Volts at -50mv
XFR and PBO both off, both worsen my scores

I'm going to have another battle once 3.0 is out.

On a positive note after never getting 4x16gb to run on my 3700X I managed to get it running better on my 3900X. Currently at 3466mhz CAS16 and stable.

 

[Shac]

If using 4 sticks of ram enter it on the Dram calc as dual rank and try those settings.

 

[Minstadave]

If using 4 sticks of ram enter it on the Dram calc as dual rank and try those settings.

Yeah that's how I got it running OK this time. Using dual rank B-die.

 

[fizzy]

Yes, both the pad on top of the chip and the one between cooler and board cover plate. And yes I did take the old ones off and clean up first.

Kept an eye on things tonight and HWiNFO is showing chipset at 61c at idle, and hitting 72-75 during a BL3 gaming session. I have tweaked fan speeds a little but do ramp up a lot when in the 70s - into 3000 -4000 range rpm. I think max is about 6000? Not sure the little whiny fan actually makes that much of a difference.

 

[Minstadave]

The little fan does very little as there's no real surface area to the chipset heatsink and when gaming its just blowing hot air from the GPU around anyway.

 

[K4Y84]

BIOS 3.0 is up

1. Add auto rule for specific memory module.
2. Improve UAD-2 DUO audio card compatibility.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570 Taichi/#BIOS

 

[Minstadave]

Oooooh. Nice spot.

 

[fizzy]

Hmm... is that it? I thought there was another AGESA update due. Dare I try it and see if I get any cold boot issues again. Wonder how many writes the bios chip has.

 

[K4Y84]

I can confirm 3.0 is still AGESA 1.0.0.4. Flashed it - no issues so far.

 

[Minstadave]

I can confirm 3.0 is still AGESA 1.0.0.4. Flashed it - no issues so far.

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