Assange to go!

englishpremier said:
There are no charges against him in Sweden now, so the only justice to face if breaking his bail conditions in the UK
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Which is extra funny, because previously Sweden having a standing EO against him meant it was impossible for him to be extradited to America (as Sweden had first dibs from the UK and would refuse any US request as it's against their law) but now he's run out the clock on the rape he committed he will be "free" after he answers for his bail violation which means the US could put in a request to the UK for his extradition, what a muppet lol.


RaohNS said:
Do Sweden extradite to the US?
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No not for political crimes, hence why they have previously refused to send the US much bigger fish than Assange, it's literally against their laws to do so.


h4rm0ny said:
Well now we'll see if all those people who continually asserted that there was no danger of him being sent to America were right.
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They were at the time, however as I detailed above he's now managed to open himself up to that possibility due to his own stupidity xD
 
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Can't actually believe people are against people like Assange exposing government corruption and would like to see him locked up..

Would be interesting to see certain people in here change their tune if Wikileaks were to suddenly release Trumps tax returns..
 
tang0 said:
Can't actually believe people are against people like Assange exposing government corruption and would like to see him locked up..

Would be interesting to see certain people in here change their tune if Wikileaks were to suddenly release Trumps tax returns..
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It's a mixed bag really. It's hypocritical, that's the problem, his personal life really doesn't do him any favours therefore he's seen as a anarchist, a troll. He's doing it for the attention and fame. He's undermining the US' sovereignty.
 
Hades said:
Sweden have dropped the charges.
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Wrong. They merely conceded the impossibility of getting Assange to face court. The statute of limitations will kill the case in 2020.

The circumstance cited as the reason for the discontinuation of the investigation was that there was “no reason to believe the decision to surrender [Assange] to Sweden can be executed in the foreseeable future.” (The Investigation Against Julian Assange Is Discontinued, supra.)

Ny specifically noted that further prosecution of the case against Assange requires his physical presence before a Swedish court, something she considered unlikely to take place.

...A discontinuation of the investigation does not mean that the charges against Assange have been dropped. The investigation can be reopened until the statute of limitations for the rape charge runs out in 2020.
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(Source).

So I don't think there is any evidence that he did that, is there?
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His accuser disagrees.

'Julian Assange's accuser 'shocked' by Sweden dropping rape investigation.'
 
Hades said:
My understanding is that he always denied the accusations and Sweden have dropped the charges.
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Then you misunderstand, he has always admitted the accusations, what he denies however is that the rape he admits to should actually be classed as rape (he doesn't believe so).

For reference it counts as rape under the laws of the UK (where he was detained), the laws of Sweden (where he committed the rape) and Australia (his home country).

Obviously going to court and attempting to mount a defense of "yeah I did it, but I really don't think it should constitute a crime k?" was never going to work hence why he fabricated the story about it all being an attempt by the USA to get their hands on him, then when that failed hid in an embassy.
 
ubersonic said:
Then you misunderstand, he has always admitted the accusations, what he denies however is that the rape he admits to should actually be classed as rape (he doesn't believe so).

For reference it counts as rape under the laws of the UK (where he was detained), the laws of Sweden (where he committed the rape) and Australia (his home country).

Obviously going to court and attempting to mount a defense of "yeah I did it, but I really don't think it should constitute a crime k?" was never going to work hence why he fabricated the story about it all being an attempt by the USA to get their hands on him, then when that failed hid in an embassy.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11949341

Doesn't seem to corroborate your account of events.

Hades said:
My understanding is that he always denied the accusations and Sweden have dropped the charges. So I don't think there is any evidence that he did that, is there?
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Evangelion said:
His accuser disagrees.

'Julian Assange's accuser 'shocked' by Sweden dropping rape investigation.'
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So accusation is guilt?
 
Mr Jack said:
Bleating that an accusation doesn't prove guilt for a guy hiding in an embassy specifically to avoid the thing that would is a pretty unimpressive defence.
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Assange is in the Ecuadorian embassy allegedly because he fears extradition to the US.

Allegedly.

You can dispute this and say the reality is he's hiding from a rape charge. I'm not putting forward any argument on his behalf btw. Can't say I have any particular fondness for Assange, lol. Personally I think he's a muppet who has voluntarily incarcerated himself for almost a decade. To avoid... involuntary incarceration... ok then.
 
FoxEye said:
Assange is in the Ecuadorian embassy allegedly because he fears extradition to the US.

Allegedly.

You can dispute this and say the reality is he's hiding from a rape charge. I'm not putting forward any argument on his behalf btw. Can't say I have any particular fondness for Assange, lol. Personally I think he's a muppet who has voluntarily incarcerated himself for almost a decade. To avoid... involuntary incarceration... ok then.
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The what? All charges are dropped by Sweden.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...-faces-arrest-after-judge-rules-warrant-valid

and also
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...p-assange-extradition-in-2013-cps-emails-show

Sweden tried to drop Assange extradition in 2013, CPS emails show
UK prosecutors tried to dissuade Swedish counterparts from doing so, exchange shows
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But ofc, there is nothing here to see, like the Skirpal case...... Believe what the media say.... Regardless if they are proven to be controlled by II, which funded by the government....

Ignorance leads to loss of liberties my friend.
 
andicole0 said:
Wasn't the rape charge dropped but there is now problem with outstanding extradition papers. I think if he leaves the embassy he'll be arrested by UK police then the us could get hold of him.
Andi.
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There are no current extradition papers for Assange, but he would be arrested for skipping bail which carries a sentence of up to one year. Given the public nature of the case he'd likely be jailed but I doubt he'd be inside for a full year.

Proceedings were dropped by Sweden only because Assange hid in the embassy long enough for them to time out, there was no finding of fact on the case. Assange appears to have successfully avoided a fair trial.
 
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