Assassin's Creed Valhalla

Poneros said:
Am I the only one who didn't like the trailer? From the white washing of the vikings to the ****** song choice, it was simply meh. Even just for pure visual spectacle it was subdued and not very interesting. Not that it matters, the game is what matters but that sucked.

More info here: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...torytelling-by-giving-you-a-viking-settlement
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Whitewashing the Vikings? Surely that’s historically accurate. How many reports are there of black Scandinavian Vikings?
 
Trailer did nothing for me really. It's nice and all but nothing we haven't seen from past versions. Boats, Green lands etc - seen it all before, obvious I suppose. Prefer to wait and hear about what has actually changed from lore and gameplay perspectives. I wonder who that was watching our protagonist during the battle...
 
robfosters said:
Whitewashing the Vikings? Surely that’s historically accurate. How many reports are there of black Scandinavian Vikings?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship)

Vikings were slavers, they were butchers and were going around raping and pillaging like they were going out for brunch. In the trailer you can see the main character get so whitened he's the shiniest white knight you can imagine, saving women & children like they're gonna give him cookies after. It's an absolute joke, but whatever. It's not like I expect them to go in the Kingdom Come direction, I know how Vanilla Ubisoft is.
 
ic1male said:
I hope these games aren't going to suffer with all the flippin' platforms they have to cater for!

Xbox Series X, Xbox One, PlayStation®5, PlayStation®4, Epic Games, Uplay and Stadia
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You can expect to be designed so it runs ok(ish) on the weakest link, so PS4 and Xbox. So I would not expect anything "wow".
 
Kainz said:
Trailer did nothing for me really. It's nice and all but nothing we haven't seen from past versions. Boats, Green lands etc - seen it all before, obvious I suppose. Prefer to wait and hear about what has actually changed from lore and gameplay perspectives. I wonder who that was watching our protagonist during the battle...
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Judging by his ludicrous foppish haircut , I'd say an English nobleman :D
 
Poneros said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship)

Vikings were slavers, they were butchers and were going around raping and pillaging like they were going out for brunch. In the trailer you can see the main character get so whitened he's the shiniest white knight you can imagine, saving women & children like they're gonna give him cookies after. It's an absolute joke, but whatever. It's not like I expect them to go in the Kingdom Come direction, I know how Vanilla Ubisoft is.
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To be fair, actually, historically speaking, Vikings werent anywhere near as bad as they were portrayed (almost exclusively portrayed that way by the nations who suffered at their hands). They were known to slave trade and they were certainly brutal in combat but they didnt actually go around raping and pillaging everything that moved. Just as the Nazis didnt all go around killing every Jew they saw or the Americans kill every American Indian they saw. In many parts of England its even false that they were invaded by the Romans for example, in many locations the Romans were welcomed, invited even.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...norse-raiding-berserkers-scandinavia-winroth/
 
Tombstone said:
To be fair, actually, historically speaking, Vikings werent anywhere near as bad as they were portrayed (almost exclusively portrayed that way by the nations who suffered at their hands). They were known to slave trade and they were certainly brutal in combat but they didnt actually go around raping and pillaging everything that moved. Just as the Nazis didnt all go around killing every Jew they saw or the Americans kill every American Indian they saw. In many parts of England its even false that they were invaded by the Romans for example, in many locations the Romans were welcomed, invited even.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...norse-raiding-berserkers-scandinavia-winroth/
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The historical record will always be skewed, but there's no reason to think it's not largely true as it's repeated even in their own (Vikings') re-tellings. But I'm not even saying they're uniquely evil - my whole point is exactly that there's no real "good guys" in these stories unlike what Ubi wants to show. It's just the way that culture was. I've been reading a bit about them in the past year as I never was much interested in Vikings, but this was preparation for this game & some Banner Saga re-plays. :)

This has a proper overview of all aspects: https://www.routledgehandbooks.com/doi/10.4324/9780203412770
 
Poneros said:
The historical record will always be skewed, but there's no reason to think it's not largely true as it's repeated even in their own (Vikings') re-tellings. But I'm not even saying they're uniquely evil - my whole point is exactly that there's no real "good guys" in these stories unlike what Ubi wants to show. It's just the way that culture was. I've been reading a bit about them in the past year as I never was much interested in Vikings, but this was preparation for this game & some Banner Saga re-plays. :)

This has a proper overview of all aspects: https://www.routledgehandbooks.com/doi/10.4324/9780203412770
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Well that I will definitely agree with, there are no good guys in history and indeed no bad guys, every nation is a mix of people and all of those people are a mix of good and bad rather than purely good or bad.

Having said that, as I say, if I was reading up for a dissertation about it I would care about getting it right, or it I was enjoying a documentary on tv I would care about the accuracy of it. But in a video game, I dont. It could be smurfs and rainbows, firing marshmallow arrows for all I care, as long as I like the gameworld and the game mechanics

(Except for that speccy smurf, wouldnt want him in it :D )
 
Tombstone said:
Indeed, I look forward to another 100+ hours to add to the 500+ I've managed on Origins and Odyssey. Pity they didnt come up with a name beginning with O, to continue the naming theme :D
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That reminds me I never played the Atlantis DLC yet. Better get cracking. 1/3 of the year gone already. Soon be holiday 2020!
 
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