Caporegime
Whitewashing the Vikings? Surely that’s historically accurate. How many reports are there of black Scandinavian Vikings?
Assassin's Creed Valhalla
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Trailer did nothing for me really. It's nice and all but nothing we haven't seen from past versions. Boats, Green lands etc - seen it all before, obvious I suppose. Prefer to wait and hear about what has actually changed from lore and gameplay perspectives. I wonder who that was watching our protagonist during the battle...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship)
Vikings were slavers, they were butchers and were going around raping and pillaging like they were going out for brunch. In the trailer you can see the main character get so whitened he's the shiniest white knight you can imagine, saving women & children like they're gonna give him cookies after. It's an absolute joke, but whatever. It's not like I expect them to go in the Kingdom Come direction, I know how Vanilla Ubisoft is.
I think I assumed as rob did that you used whitewashing as it's used in the film world, to refer to portraying historically black people with white actors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film
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You can expect to be designed so it runs ok(ish) on the weakest link, so PS4 and Xbox. So I would not expect anything "wow".
There...preordered the Gold Edition, £67 with the 20% off
Now to rewatch the Vikings tv series between now and release date to build up to it lol
Will be doing the same, nearer the time - thoroughly enjoyed seasonpass content on Odyssey
Gameplay reveal next week (7th), along with other XSX games.
https://twitter.com/ubisoftnordic/status/1255890083468763136
https://twitter.com/ubisoftnordic/status/1255890083468763136
To be fair, actually, historically speaking, Vikings werent anywhere near as bad as they were portrayed (almost exclusively portrayed that way by the nations who suffered at their hands). They were known to slave trade and they were certainly brutal in combat but they didnt actually go around raping and pillaging everything that moved. Just as the Nazis didnt all go around killing every Jew they saw or the Americans kill every American Indian they saw. In many parts of England its even false that they were invaded by the Romans for example, in many locations the Romans were welcomed, invited even.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...norse-raiding-berserkers-scandinavia-winroth/
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Wow. I cannot wait. Perfect setting.
Indeed, I look forward to another 100+ hours to add to the 500+ I've managed on Origins and Odyssey. Pity they didnt come up with a name beginning with O, to continue the naming theme
Soldato
Assassins Creed Valhalla and Cyberpunk 2077, it's gonna be a cracking year for gaming
The historical record will always be skewed, but there's no reason to think it's not largely true as it's repeated even in their own (Vikings') re-tellings. But I'm not even saying they're uniquely evil - my whole point is exactly that there's no real "good guys" in these stories unlike what Ubi wants to show. It's just the way that culture was. I've been reading a bit about them in the past year as I never was much interested in Vikings, but this was preparation for this game & some Banner Saga re-plays.
This has a proper overview of all aspects: https://www.routledgehandbooks.com/doi/10.4324/9780203412770
The historical record will always be skewed, but there's no reason to think it's not largely true as it's repeated even in their own (Vikings') re-tellings. But I'm not even saying they're uniquely evil - my whole point is exactly that there's no real "good guys" in these stories unlike what Ubi wants to show. It's just the way that culture was. I've been reading a bit about them in the past year as I never was much interested in Vikings, but this was preparation for this game & some Banner Saga re-plays.
This has a proper overview of all aspects: https://www.routledgehandbooks.com/doi/10.4324/9780203412770
Well that I will definitely agree with, there are no good guys in history and indeed no bad guys, every nation is a mix of people and all of those people are a mix of good and bad rather than purely good or bad.
Having said that, as I say, if I was reading up for a dissertation about it I would care about getting it right, or it I was enjoying a documentary on tv I would care about the accuracy of it. But in a video game, I dont. It could be smurfs and rainbows, firing marshmallow arrows for all I care, as long as I like the gameworld and the game mechanics
(Except for that speccy smurf, wouldnt want him in it
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Having just finished Far Cry New Dawn, I hope the base building will be somewhat like that but a bit more fleshed out.
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Indeed, I look forward to another 100+ hours to add to the 500+ I've managed on Origins and Odyssey. Pity they didnt come up with a name beginning with O, to continue the naming theme
Indeed
Caporegime
Indeed, I look forward to another 100+ hours to add to the 500+ I've managed on Origins and Odyssey. Pity they didnt come up with a name beginning with O, to continue the naming theme
That reminds me I never played the Atlantis DLC yet. Better get cracking. 1/3 of the year gone already. Soon be holiday 2020!
I enjoyed the Atlantis DLC, from a story point of view it makes no sense at all but was good fun and visually impressive
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