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Asus fanbois. For those who dare to pay the Asus Tax
Asus ROG PG32UCDM - 4k OLED 240hz
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Based on the rtings comparison at least, the Asus is worse and costs more
Cost varies by region, the Asus was on offer for cheaper here in the UK than the Gigabyte was recently. But the Gigabyte model has also seen sales as well.Based on the rtings comparison at least, the Asus is worse and costs more
For the 32" 4k QD-OLEDs you aren't really making a bad decision whichever way you go.
Curved? Go with the Alienware version. Otherwise you can pick between MSI, Gigabyte and Asus with all offering largely the same feature set, just depends on the best price at the time and potentially you preference with the design of the monitor as well!
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I think Im replying to the wrong person here, lol sorry. Launch was circa 1,300-1,500 I think. I just got a new one for sub 1k. Seems reasonable for such a well regarded 4k monitor. Its less than 1/3 of my PC build cost. I value the thing i spend 100% of of PC time looking. Ive watched so many reviews and it does extremely will in them all - especially colour reproduction, HDR tuning, uniformity and 3 yr burn in warranty (not that i would want to go anywhere near Asus currently with a warranty claim given their recent press)
From the various reviews I’ve read, ASUS monitors tend to have the least bugs / firmware issues… plus the overall best colour accuracy and HDR implementations. But there probably isn’t much in it.
The new proximity sensor on new ASUS’s 27” model (PG27UCDM) is supposed to be good. I think the ASUS 32” version also has a proximity sensor for turning the monitor on and off, not sure how good that is on the 32” model though. I assume the 27” has improved it since it’s been a focus of their marketing.
As per DP2.1 vs DP1.4, yes most people are not supposed to be able to tell the difference with display stream compression (DSC) so on paper it’s not a big deal, but using DSC can cause all sorts of weird incompatibility issues with different monitors / drivers etc. and having personally gone through the nuisance of trying to figure out what is causing my monitor to ‘turn on / off’ randomly (by process of elimination, it was probably DSC) I would be going for DP2.1 if availible.
PG27UCDM is the bestest, supposedly, if you can accept a 27” screen… which might be a dealbreaker.
MSI has also released a 32” 240hz screen with DP2.1 -> 322URX. So that’s worth a look!
The new proximity sensor on new ASUS’s 27” model (PG27UCDM) is supposed to be good. I think the ASUS 32” version also has a proximity sensor for turning the monitor on and off, not sure how good that is on the 32” model though. I assume the 27” has improved it since it’s been a focus of their marketing.
As per DP2.1 vs DP1.4, yes most people are not supposed to be able to tell the difference with display stream compression (DSC) so on paper it’s not a big deal, but using DSC can cause all sorts of weird incompatibility issues with different monitors / drivers etc. and having personally gone through the nuisance of trying to figure out what is causing my monitor to ‘turn on / off’ randomly (by process of elimination, it was probably DSC) I would be going for DP2.1 if availible.
PG27UCDM is the bestest, supposedly, if you can accept a 27” screen… which might be a dealbreaker.
MSI has also released a 32” 240hz screen with DP2.1 -> 322URX. So that’s worth a look!
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I am really hoping so. Of all the new build (and coming from a 9 year old PC) this is the thing Im most excited to see. Im going to christen it with the Dead Space remake or possibly Calisto Protocol.
Agreed. I came to terms with that when I was weighing up 4k vs 1440p ultrawide. My deciding factors were: 1440p ultrawide OLEDs seem to be poor choices and old gen. The newer gen OLED panels seem to be heading into the 4k space at the moment. I do some productivity work and 4k will be a sight to behold I think. I will probably have a little regret that I dont have that wrap-around immersion an ultrawide gives (and the frame rate bump a 1440p ultrawide will be) but moving from 27" to 32" will definitely fill more of my field of view - And Ive had no complaints at all gaming on a 27" 16:9. A lot of what I played was COD Warzone and having your mini map and other key info much further out of your FOV would be annoying I think. My longer term plan is that 4k will come into its own now - the high 40 series cards can just about game on it, and the 50 series for sure (when not smoking) and so I will enjoy my 4080 until either the 5090 comes back to sensible price points or the 6080 comes out. Im really interested to fiddle with DLSS 4 and all that gives - I didnt have that option on my 1080!
Ah ha. I had forgotten all about DSC. So if by some miracle i play something which the 4080 can drive past 4k 144hz (the limit of DP 1.4) then DSC kicks in and allows the card to say drive the monitor at 190hz even on SP 1.4?
As you your second point, last night I bought 3 x HDMI 2.1 vesa certified 3m cables from Amazon for delivery today (Ugreen and Silkland) hoping they arent scam cables and ill return the 2 poorest performing ones. I expect the monitor itself comes with both cables but ill bet they are both less than 2m
@Middenacht - DSC should be enabled by default when you select a > 144hz refresh rate at 4k for your monitor via Nvidia control panel.
It’s DSC switching ‘on and off’ that’s the problem that you want to avoid. In my personal use case, my monitor will ‘turn off’ for 2/3 seconds just like I am selecting another input. This happens at seemingly random intervals with my (160hz max) monitor running >144hz at 4k via display port 1.4.
It’s impossible to be sure what is causing this, but I’m pretty sure windows and the monitor are getting confused as to what level of DSC is required and then it’s recalibrating as it goes. When you’re running at 240hz, this might be less common as windows / monitor already knows it will have to use a ‘relatively compressed’ DSC.
Have a google for ‘alt + tab’ and DSC issues and you’ll get a feel for the sort of nuisances that people run into.
With all of this said, most people don’t seem to run into major issues. But for me personally if there was a choice between a monitor with DP2.1 with the full 80gb/s bandwidth or not, I’d be going with the full DP2.1 for these reason.
As mentioned, the MSI 322URX seems to be another model that offers this.
It’s DSC switching ‘on and off’ that’s the problem that you want to avoid. In my personal use case, my monitor will ‘turn off’ for 2/3 seconds just like I am selecting another input. This happens at seemingly random intervals with my (160hz max) monitor running >144hz at 4k via display port 1.4.
It’s impossible to be sure what is causing this, but I’m pretty sure windows and the monitor are getting confused as to what level of DSC is required and then it’s recalibrating as it goes. When you’re running at 240hz, this might be less common as windows / monitor already knows it will have to use a ‘relatively compressed’ DSC.
Have a google for ‘alt + tab’ and DSC issues and you’ll get a feel for the sort of nuisances that people run into.
With all of this said, most people don’t seem to run into major issues. But for me personally if there was a choice between a monitor with DP2.1 with the full 80gb/s bandwidth or not, I’d be going with the full DP2.1 for these reason.
As mentioned, the MSI 322URX seems to be another model that offers this.
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Totally get all that you say - and thank you. For me the point is moot, because neither the monitor I just bought (PG32UCDM) or the 4080 Super I have just bought support DP2.1 so solving that issue properly is a double upgrade away. My wife has already taken both my balls for how much Ive spent...I fear the 'but i need DP2.1 dear' conversation may entirely neuter me!