Looks like they removed this beta bios from their site, maybe they found an issue with it?...Glad I don't use any beta BIOS.
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ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI owners thread***
Looks like they removed this beta bios from their site, maybe they found an issue with it?...Glad I don't use any beta BIOS.
I'll do my best to explain.
On this motherboard they have used a pci gen 3 lane and split it in 2 by using a ASMEDIA ASM1601 controller so that it can support 2 sata ports. This controller is quite old and the performance limits the speed of any device plugged in to a sata port to somewhere in the region of 320-350 mb per sec. This is easily demonstrated by crystaldiskmark or similar benchmark software and you will see that the performance is 30-40% less than the manufacturer's specifications for a decent quality sata SSD.
This only limits the speed of sata devices and no other devices have their speeds constrained unless you populate all the NVMe ports and then gpu lanes are lost.
A quick Google of b650e-e and ASMEDIA ASM1601 will provide more detail.
As noted earlier though, if you don't use sata ssds any more, you wouldn't notice this limitation of the board.
2 of my SATA drives get ~400MB/s and one gets ~370MB/s. Yes, they are slow on this board. Not a big deal for me but still a bit of a dodgy move by ASUS.
Spud is right. Sata Ssd run at half speed due to lane sharing, but on this board you get the benefit that pcie5 m1 doesn't share the pcie5 graphics slot like a lot of other boards do.
Asus try and keep quiet about it in the specs, but there really isn't much need for ssd these days given they are so slow and nvme doesn't cost much more, unless people want to hang on to their old storage
Asus try and keep quiet about it in the specs, but there really isn't much need for ssd these days given they are so slow and nvme doesn't cost much more, unless people want to hang on to their old storage
AM5 boards shouldn't need to share the graphics lanes with the primary M.2 slot. Intel Z790 boards always have to, because the CPU has no spare PCI-E 5.0 lanes.
AM5 CPUs can technically do 2x PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slots with no lane sharing, but you only see that with X670E boards.
Thanks, that is interesting, they really should put that in the spec and the manual
Interesting I'm sure I saw around 500 MB/s on my 4TB EVO drives. I will test again tomorrow.
One thing i did was move a lot of games from my EVO 870 SSD to my 990 PRO (7000+ MB/s) which is in slot 1cand didn't notice any quicker load times.
One thing i did was move a lot of games from my EVO 870 SSD to my 990 PRO (7000+ MB/s) which is in slot 1cand didn't notice any quicker load times.
I get over 400 MB/s for my 2TB 870 EVO on SATA, the way I've my games sorted is older games on the 970 EVO or mechancial drives and most modern games on my 2TB NVMe 980 Pro, the Samsung portable T7 SSD in USB C connected I use for any game, don't notice any real difference to be honest in gaming, maybe my 64GB ram helps.
There are plenty of older games that are more then fast enough on SATA SSD, I even tried USB 3 on mechanical drives for older games with no issues. I actually tried "No Mans Sky" on my 980 Pro NVMe and Samsung portable T7 (USB C mode), no difference in gaming. Yes 980 Pro is a lot faster on paper and hardware wise, but does not mean you will actually feel or see the difference in all games.
Anyway newest games I stick on the Samsung 980 PRO , speedwise 6928MB/s. Older games I play like Baldur's Gate 1 or 2 Enhanced are more then fine on my Samsung 870 EVO or even mechanical drives.
There are some benefits to having games or files on diifferent drives ie less wear and tear compared to everything on one drive.
Also in the older days you had a physical copy of the games ie floppy, CD or DVD, nowadays it's all digital downloads.
I must be one of the few with both USB floppy and USB DVD drives
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I have just re-run spepds tests on my SSD drives and they are in fact around 400 MB/s on my 4 SSD drives. 420MB/s for my EVO 870's. So as Spugun said it is about a 20% reduction over theroetical max.
Not too bothered as I said above i didnt aven notice the difference in game loading times when I moved my bigger new games from the SSD to the 990 Pro.
After the huge jump from mechanical to SSD there seem to be negligible gain appart from benchmarking results. I wont be rushing to buy one of the Gen5 Nvme drives.
Not too bothered as I said above i didnt aven notice the difference in game loading times when I moved my bigger new games from the SSD to the 990 Pro.
After the huge jump from mechanical to SSD there seem to be negligible gain appart from benchmarking results. I wont be rushing to buy one of the Gen5 Nvme drives.
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New Beta BIOS out.
Version 3056 Beta Version
13.26 MB 2024/10/28
"1. Include Turbo Game Mode: Enhance performance in certain games.
2. Update AGESA Version to Combo AM5 PI 1.2.0.2a: Enhance compatibility and performance.
Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SB650EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer"
BETA BIOS Link
Version 3056 Beta Version
13.26 MB 2024/10/28
"1. Include Turbo Game Mode: Enhance performance in certain games.
2. Update AGESA Version to Combo AM5 PI 1.2.0.2a: Enhance compatibility and performance.
Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SB650EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer"
BETA BIOS Link
They get a lot of **** on the ASUS forum if they don't keep dropping beta BIOS's for all boards. I don't bother with the beta's.
New BIOS
Version 3057
13.26 MB 2024/11/06
"1. Include Turbo Game Mode: Enhance performance in certain games.
2. Update AGESA Version to Combo AM5 PI 1.2.0.2a: Enhance compatibility and performance.
Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SB650EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer"
Guys make sure you load BIOS defaults after or you may get issues like I had ie lockups with apps in Windows etc.... Fix is after BIOS flash to load BIOS defaults first save and reboot and change your BIOS settings after. I missed out defaults and had issues, all well now .
Version 3057
13.26 MB 2024/11/06
"1. Include Turbo Game Mode: Enhance performance in certain games.
2. Update AGESA Version to Combo AM5 PI 1.2.0.2a: Enhance compatibility and performance.
Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SB650EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer"
Guys make sure you load BIOS defaults after or you may get issues like I had ie lockups with apps in Windows etc.... Fix is after BIOS flash to load BIOS defaults first save and reboot and change your BIOS settings after. I missed out defaults and had issues, all well now
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Don't blame you, I give you a full report in a few days, seems ok so far ,off to gaming now
.Btw 9800X3D is supported from BIOS 2613 if you check the Asus CPU list support, also still no issues with the latest BIOS, I have been gaming lastnight all fine, booted fine this morning with no issues so looks like 3057 is a very stable BIOS so far.
Asus B650E-E (4 dimm board) 9800X3D rebuild from my 7800X3D. I just got 8000 working on a Teamgroup 6400 2x24M die kit. Yes those timings are horrific but I had no idea if it would even work lol.
I can have a play now and tighten up.
Who needs x870 lol
3056 bios gents and W11 24H2 fresh install
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I can have a play now and tighten up.
Who needs x870 lol
3056 bios gents and W11 24H2 fresh install
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Man of Honour
I have the Asus B650E-F but I believe it uses the same LAN as the "E" version. Is anybody else having problems with the LAN constantly dropping the connection? I have never had this problem with any other board, ever, and this is a bloody nightmare. One minute it's fine the next it's lost the connection to the internet and I get sorry, can't connect to that site messages and the only way to get it back is to shut down the pc, turn off at the wall then turn back on and reboot and the connection will be back for a variable length of time until it drops it again. Just in the last 30 minutes it's dropped the connection three times. I have the latest drivers installed from Asus website. Has anybody found a workaround at all? At this rate I will just buy another board that doesn't have Intel LAN which is a shame as the board itself is very good. Before someone says buy a LAN card, I can't as I don't have space for it (I have a non standard case with the gpu on a riser sat in a shroud over the pci-e slots).
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