ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI owners thread***

I see a BETA BIOS is now available for download on the Asus B650E-E GAMING WIFI support download page. Think I'll wait until the final version ie non BETA.


ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI BIOS 3040

Version 3040 Beta Version
13.23 MB 2024/09/18
"1.Updated to AMD AGESA PI 1.2.0.2.
2.Phase in AMD cTDP to 105W option for particular processors.
Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SB650EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer"


Looks like they removed this beta bios from their site, maybe they found an issue with it?...Glad I don't use any beta BIOS.
 
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Can you please explain this in more detail? I can't see any mention of it in the manual or the tech specs.


Hmm, that's interesting, maybe Spudgun was running at the same time and encountering a bottleneck between the chipset and CPU? Afaik, the uplink is 4 lane, I think PCIE 4.0 or 5.0.

I'll do my best to explain.

On this motherboard they have used a pci gen 3 lane and split it in 2 by using a ASMEDIA ASM1601 controller so that it can support 2 sata ports. This controller is quite old and the performance limits the speed of any device plugged in to a sata port to somewhere in the region of 320-350 mb per sec. This is easily demonstrated by crystaldiskmark or similar benchmark software and you will see that the performance is 30-40% less than the manufacturer's specifications for a decent quality sata SSD.

This only limits the speed of sata devices and no other devices have their speeds constrained unless you populate all the NVMe ports and then gpu lanes are lost.

A quick Google of b650e-e and ASMEDIA ASM1601 will provide more detail.

As noted earlier though, if you don't use sata ssds any more, you wouldn't notice this limitation of the board.
 
I'll do my best to explain.

On this motherboard they have used a pci gen 3 lane and split it in 2 by using a ASMEDIA ASM1601 controller so that it can support 2 sata ports. This controller is quite old and the performance limits the speed of any device plugged in to a sata port to somewhere in the region of 320-350 mb per sec. This is easily demonstrated by crystaldiskmark or similar benchmark software and you will see that the performance is 30-40% less than the manufacturer's specifications for a decent quality sata SSD.

This only limits the speed of sata devices and no other devices have their speeds constrained unless you populate all the NVMe ports and then gpu lanes are lost.

A quick Google of b650e-e and ASMEDIA ASM1601 will provide more detail.

As noted earlier though, if you don't use sata ssds any more, you wouldn't notice this limitation of the board.
2 of my SATA drives get ~400MB/s and one gets ~370MB/s. Yes, they are slow on this board. Not a big deal for me but still a bit of a dodgy move by ASUS.
 
Spud is right. Sata Ssd run at half speed due to lane sharing, but on this board you get the benefit that pcie5 m1 doesn't share the pcie5 graphics slot like a lot of other boards do.

Asus try and keep quiet about it in the specs, but there really isn't much need for ssd these days given they are so slow and nvme doesn't cost much more, unless people want to hang on to their old storage
 
but on this board you get the benefit that pcie5 m1 doesn't share the pcie5 graphics slot like a lot of other boards do.
AM5 boards shouldn't need to share the graphics lanes with the primary M.2 slot. Intel Z790 boards always have to, because the CPU has no spare PCI-E 5.0 lanes.

AM5 CPUs can technically do 2x PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slots with no lane sharing, but you only see that with X670E boards.

On this motherboard they have used a pci gen 3 lane and split it in 2 by using a ASMEDIA ASM1601 controller so that it can support 2 sata ports. This controller is quite old and the performance limits the speed of any device plugged in to a sata port to somewhere in the region of 320-350 mb per sec. This is easily demonstrated by crystaldiskmark or similar benchmark software and you will see that the performance is 30-40% less than the manufacturer's specifications for a decent quality sata SSD.
Thanks, that is interesting, they really should put that in the spec and the manual :o
 
Interesting I'm sure I saw around 500 MB/s on my 4TB EVO drives. I will test again tomorrow.

One thing i did was move a lot of games from my EVO 870 SSD to my 990 PRO (7000+ MB/s) which is in slot 1cand didn't notice any quicker load times.
 
Interesting I'm sure I saw around 500 MB/s on my 4TB EVO drives. I will test again tomorrow.

One thing i did was move a lot of games from my EVO 870 SSD to my 990 PRO (7000+ MB/s) which is in slot 1cand didn't notice any quicker load times.




I get over 400 MB/s for my 2TB 870 EVO on SATA, the way I've my games sorted is older games on the 970 EVO or mechancial drives and most modern games on my 2TB NVMe 980 Pro, the Samsung portable T7 SSD in USB C connected I use for any game, don't notice any real difference to be honest in gaming, maybe my 64GB ram helps.

There are plenty of older games that are more then fast enough on SATA SSD, I even tried USB 3 on mechanical drives for older games with no issues. I actually tried "No Mans Sky" on my 980 Pro NVMe and Samsung portable T7 (USB C mode), no difference in gaming. Yes 980 Pro is a lot faster on paper and hardware wise, but does not mean you will actually feel or see the difference in all games.
Anyway newest games I stick on the Samsung 980 PRO , speedwise 6928MB/s. Older games I play like Baldur's Gate 1 or 2 Enhanced are more then fine on my Samsung 870 EVO or even mechanical drives.

There are some benefits to having games or files on diifferent drives ie less wear and tear compared to everything on one drive.
Also in the older days you had a physical copy of the games ie floppy, CD or DVD, nowadays it's all digital downloads.

I must be one of the few with both USB floppy and USB DVD drives :).
 
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I have just re-run spepds tests on my SSD drives and they are in fact around 400 MB/s on my 4 SSD drives. 420MB/s for my EVO 870's. So as Spugun said it is about a 20% reduction over theroetical max.

Not too bothered as I said above i didnt aven notice the difference in game loading times when I moved my bigger new games from the SSD to the 990 Pro.

After the huge jump from mechanical to SSD there seem to be negligible gain appart from benchmarking results. I wont be rushing to buy one of the Gen5 Nvme drives.
 
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New Beta BIOS out.


Version 3056 Beta Version
13.26 MB 2024/10/28
"1. Include Turbo Game Mode: Enhance performance in certain games.
2. Update AGESA Version to Combo AM5 PI 1.2.0.2a: Enhance compatibility and performance.
Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SB650EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer"


BETA BIOS Link
 
One after another, why is that? Can't make thinks stable? Didn't update to the previous as I don't see problems, I guess most of it is to do with new chips?
 
One after another, why is that? Can't make thinks stable? Didn't update to the previous as I don't see problems, I guess most of it is to do with new chips?
They get a lot of **** on the ASUS forum if they don't keep dropping beta BIOS's for all boards. I don't bother with the beta's.
 
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