This seems to be the exact reason why 3k series had sensible MSRP as 2k series were selling so badly Nvidia decided to drop prices. But then people shown them that they can be overcharged a lot and here we are.
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At what point do you say GPU's are too expensive and refuse to buy?
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Yes, the pandemic seems to have created a mindset amongst new consumers that graphics cards typically have scarce availability and high prices, which they now believe to be acceptable. Unfortunately, it appears there has been enough of these to prop up the 40/50 series far beyond NVIDIA lowering prices.
OcUK charging £3000 for a high-end graphics card is just pure madness. I know profit is the name of the game, but the retailers themselves have become scalpers as there are enough foolish people to buy cards at inflated prices.
We can only hope that some normality may return in the future, but alas, I think this is now the new norm. The market has spoken.
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I don't think it will change, because I think that while people are a bit hysterical about buying the latest and greatest, that we also happen to be approaching a time when upgrading will die. By that, I mean that there just isn't enough of a % gain with each generation to justify upgrading. I think that the GPU is now fast approaching the CPU, where upgrades are every four or five generations rather than one. Perhaps people will buy or build PC's now and just not upgrade at all, until they replace the entire PC? In which case the price of the GPU just won't matter - it will just be taken as a system price not a component price.
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Surprising how much of an effect willy waving has on people
And don't buy a 4k monitor
Yup this is probably the easiest way to stop the FOMO.
Then again, these days people buy 4k to play 1080p (with DLSS upscaling), which is... not the same thing. I don't actually see any point in a 4K monitor unless it's massive, and I don't really want a monitor big enough that 4K becomes relevant. My 27" MSI monitor is fine for gaming and I see no value in upgrading it anymore than I see any point in upgrading my 2070 at the moment for the games I play.
Nvidia realised people will overpay when there is a shortage so now they purposely manufacture a shortage at launch.
Considering some of 5090 show up to 16 weeks wait time now on OCUK website, that's 4 months. It takes about 3 months to produce graphics card from 0 and then few weeks to deliver to the store by ship. Which means they're just now starting production of these cards! :/ Paper lunch no doubt, rushed on purpose. And prices going through the roof. But then again, I see already laptops with 5090 showing up with prices close to 4k with 16GB of RAM only to that, so 4k+ to get more.
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To be fair you're correct, however I was being a bit light hearted in the conversation.
I was intending to keep it light too.
I sold my two garage queens last year, both were pre 2000 but not classics.. Even doing my own maintenance it was costing the best part of a 5080 each year for a few blasts in the sun.
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It's got to the point where buying the flagship xx90 founders card is really the best idea, people are currently selling their 18 month old £1699 2022 purchase for £1800+ at the moment via eBay.
I wonder what the 5090 FE's will be selling for when the 6090 is inevitably in high demand and short supply?
18 months gaming on the best graphics card money could buy at the time and you still end up with money in your pocket..
Whilst it might seem 'too much', as an actual product for holding value (in the markets current bonkers state) it's actually ridiculous.
I wonder what the 5090 FE's will be selling for when the 6090 is inevitably in high demand and short supply?
18 months gaming on the best graphics card money could buy at the time and you still end up with money in your pocket..
Whilst it might seem 'too much', as an actual product for holding value (in the markets current bonkers state) it's actually ridiculous.
Makes me laugh, sadly, sometimes, working in distribution/logistics - been a few times there are "shortages" of products and I'm like... hmm... when I know there is like 48 pallets of 72 units of the product sitting in a warehouse somewhere.
The risk is if 6090 gets substantially more performance and the rest of the stack below them steps up, the 3090 and 4090 could absolutely tank in value as they have historically done.
4090 is only holding its value because the general performance uplift on the entire 50X0 stack is smaller than expected AND the price also went up.
Edit: the counter argument to that is we may well have just hit the wall on general GPU performance as we have done on x86 CPUs and we are into marginal gains.
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I strongly disagree about not buying a 4K monitor. There's very little reason NOT to, given how widespread upscaling is. 1440p upscaled to 4K looks better than native 1440p. A 4K 120Hz screen gives you so much flexibility in resolution and framerate.
The best thing to do is just avoid new and/or badly optimised games. People who jump from one full-price, day 1, AAA game to the next are nutters when there are so many heavily discounted, patched up, optimised games out there in any genre you care to play.
The best thing to do is just avoid new and/or badly optimised games. People who jump from one full-price, day 1, AAA game to the next are nutters when there are so many heavily discounted, patched up, optimised games out there in any genre you care to play.
Can't say I feel anything other than disappointed by the status of the GPU market these days. Saving and upgrading your GPU used to be exciting. Now I earn way more than I did back then and I'm looking at the pricing and thinking it must surely be about to come down, a lot, right? 
I miss the days of the 4870X2 (top AMD card at the time) for £440.
I miss the days of the 4870X2 (top AMD card at the time) for £440.
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Can't say I feel anything other than disappointed by the status of the GPU market these days. Saving and upgrading your GPU used to be exciting. Now I earn way more than I did back then and I'm looking at the pricing and thinking it must surely be about to come down, a lot, right?
I miss the days of the 4870X2 (top AMD card at the time) for £440.
oh stop complaining and buy that Nvidia 1030GT for £2000.
It's all just odd. Who are these people, with this amount of money, that are willing to suddenly buy a well used £1500 GPU for nearly £2000, when they could have easily got one for RRP for absolutely ages...?!
It's just weird. Where do these people come from? Did they just suddenly appear out of nowhere wanting the best GPU at whatever the cost? Where were they before now?
If it is due to disappointment on the 5090, what is wrong with their complete lack of willpower to wait a few months and actually get the card they want at RRP.
It's almost like people's brains have been terminally affected by the 3xxx series and crypto boom (where the prices and FOMO actually made sense)and now every release is a self fulfilling prophecy of stupid prices and FOMO.
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