Atari ST vs Amiga

I was a C64 then Amiga A500 owner. I used to love all the Microprowse Sim games best, F19 Stealth and Gunship to name just a few.
 
Amiga 500 here, some classics that have probably already been mentioned, but sod it.....were Shadow of the Beast (great soundtrack and parallax scrolling, wow), Cannon Fodder, Falcon, Moonstone, Kick Off, Carrier Command, Syndicate, and best til last, Frontier Elite ;)

Had a CD32 also, was one of the ten owners ;)
 
Pred said:
Carrier Command
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Thanks for the memory. I used to play on that :) Maybe I was more into games back then but I just feel they were much more creative than games today which dare not break the mould.

80% of todays games consist of

Sports / FPS / RTS / Survival Horror.

Adventure games are not made anymore because people only want multiplayer now. The industry has moved on which is understandable, but the games that stick out in my mind which I never forget are from the early 90s.

Monkey Island
Day Of The Tentacle
Xenon2
Marble Madness
Rick Dangerous
Syndicate
Flashback

Can anyone remember volfied? Very underrated puzzle game. Would love to see a remake. Was very addictive back in the day.

 
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Completely missed the ST/Amiga debate as me and all my friends had Amigas :D

I had a go on an ST a few years later and from that experience I'd say the Amiga looked and sounded better, but it was just a short half-hour play.
 
I cant help it. Just have to add Soccer Kid, Goal!, Skidmarks, Desert Strike. I'm also staring at the Second Samurai box in the corner.
How carp was Amiga Paint!?
 
Wow there are a lot of inaccuracies in this thread, for starters the Amiga started development in 1982 by a third party company called the Amiga Corporation and then picked up by Commodore in 1984.

Jack Tramiel the founder of commodore then resigned after a falling out with the chairman and formed his own company, he then bought a division of atari and used the name atari, he got his engineer to develop a low cost alternative to the Amiga in 1984 so the Amiga is older than the ST and superior with a much better sound chip, it had custom chips agnus with integrated blitter chip, denise and paula allowing the processor to perform other tasks.

The Amiga and Atari ST were both released in 1985, ST came out a few months earlier only because of a law suit.

Play Pacmania on the Amiga and compare it to the atari ST version, the Amiga version was full screen with great stereo sound while the ST had a small window playing area on the right of the screen with the score, lives left etc on the left with poorer sound, many games on the amiga were superior with better sound, better scrolling, more sprites, parallax scrolling, more colours etc.

The ST didn't have hardware scrolling so games developers had to employ tricks to get decent horizontal scrolling like in metrocross.

I had an ST first because in 1987 it was cheaper with a bigger games library, eventually though in 1988 the Amiga had its price cut and more games companies started to release software on it and by late 1988 i sold my ST for an Amiga 500, Amiga owners had to put up with poor ST ports not really taking advantage of the Amiga superior capabilities, read any magazine from this era and read all about this, eventually titles such as Shadows of the Beast came out to really show what the amiga was capable of, aweing people in shop windows.

Team 17 were probably the best software company in the later years of the Amiga's life really pushing the hardware to it's limits, check out Project-X, a beautiful horizontal scrolling shoot em up that the Atari ST would have really struggled with.
 
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Anyone remember FTL's Oids? :D

I must admit I found the Amiga slightly superior, but the difference was so small, it didn't really matter. And Oids was ST only!
 
I had a few atari STs and still got a 1040STE at my folks house. If I remember correctly the Atari was use by a lot of music makers because of the midi. I remember seeing groups on Top of The Pops, and other music programs with them.

On a side note is there a market for Ataris these days.
 
Only market is eBay.

It's very hard to find a decent one though as the prices are random.

Decided to start my CD32+SX(1/2) search and Amiga 4000 search - that would then give me pretty much the complete set. I still do actually use my Amiga and currently going through Bloodwych again. God how hard was it. Then on to Chaos Strikes Back (again solid).

But I have SWoS, Kick Off 2, Speedball 2, Moonstone, Turrican 2, etc. to play when I get my **** kicked again!



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Loved my (dads) ST 520. I remember us sending it away to have the RAM upgraded so we could play Street Fighter II! I think the Amiga had the edge graphics-wise though. But the ST (as previously mentioned) had the MIDI port, and was still being used for years after they stopped selling them by musicians and such. Some of the best known PC music production software started on the ST (Cubase, for example).
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I upgraded the ram myself after about nine attempts. It was my first ever upgrade and never bought a whole computer since.
 
520stfm and a 1040ste here. Loved them.

I got the ST as it was £100 cheaper than the Amiga....then found out about MIDI ports and Cubase. Never looked back :)

Was split between Cubase and Jimmy Whites Snooker ;)
 
I used Music X and a midi interface on my Amiga A500+. I still have an A1200 with a Blizzard 030 accelerator and Hard Drive, my original A500+, an A600 a friend gave me and a box I bought of ebay for £20 that contained a working A1200 + some sort of expansion card, an A600 and an original A500 with memory upgrade and some games.
 
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I had an Atari ST which I saved for a year to get, I have very fond memories of Microprose Stealth Fighter, Falcon and Geoff Crammonds Grand Prix, I never forget that first gunfight with a Mig-21 in Falcon, absolute heaven :D
 
i had the ST and the amiga, the amiga was the best purey because 90% of my mates had the it, and swaping games was the order of the day
 
I loved Alternate Reality on the ST and dungeon master on the Amiga
why cant they make games so playable any more :(
 
Started out with an A500 and then moved to an A4000 (desktop) with 10MB :cool:, which I still have packed away in the loft. A few friends had ST's and there wasn't a huge amount in it really, kinda like the 360 vs PS3 debate now, but on balance the Amiga was the better machine if you weren't working with MIDI.


Some great games at the time, Carrier Command, Starglider 1 & 2, Falcon, Syndicate, Frontier, Grand Prix (1). Used to tinker about with LightWave and Vista too.

edit: just remembered Another World and Flashback!

Workbench 3.1 was a great OS when running from HD, especially when enhanced with MUI (Magic user interface?). Took a long time for Windows to catch up.
 
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And can you remember the equivalent back then for what is now the product key?
Especially Microprose, it would ask you for a word from page 20 sentence 5 word 8 or something along those lines...
Needless to say I dont think the right word was always entered.
 
My family had an amiga 500, 600 and the 1200. Amazing machines, and fantastic to play on. The floppies were right ****s, though and I definitely remember the metal sheaths breaking off inside the machine :(
the games you could get for it~ *_* they were awesome, true masterpieces of design and, indeed, compromise, because you had to be careful what you put on the floppies as they were only 1.44mb in size, so there was none of this wasted space you young 'uns have these days. (I'm 22 btw ;) ) looking back the designers must have had a massive hernia trying to fit their games on them.

nanobot, some of the anti-piracy methods were awesome :D You had to have the manual, i remember Soccer Kid and it's 'match the symbols' and globdule and and it's 'match the word' validation techniques.
 
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