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**ATI RADEON 7800 SERIES NOW AVAILABLE!!**

There is no value in these cards what so ever. It's disgusting what AMD have done to the market. These should be prices at around what the 6850/70 launched for, a little more due to the extra VRAM. I'm just not buying anything at these prices and I wish that 90% of consumers would follow suit.

I no longer recommend AMD cards to anyone and considering that I'm everyones I.T. guy, that's a lot of everyones.
 
Hopefully pricing of new cards will be sorted by the time I've decided on a suitable Z77 / Ivy setup.

Although I may just end up buying a last gen card and Z68 / 2500k at this rate!
 
dlknight said:
Liam IMO best thing is to look for a second hand 69xx series card, they've been going for around £160 on the members market. That is if you really need the extra vram? what resolution are you running?
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Hi mate, im gaming at full hd on my 24" asus monitor 1920x1080. Ill take a look on the members market and see wats about. Thanks for the advice matey, whats the chances of the 6900 series dropping? Very little i bet :)

Wat would be a good nivdia alternate would i say not including kepler? Not been that side for a long time so dont really keep tabs on there products etc, i always hear the 480 and 560ti mentioned a lot on here tho
 
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liamcrane said:
Hi mate, im gaming at full hd on my 24" asus monitor 1920x1080. Ill take a look on the members market and see wats about. Thanks for the advice matey, whats the chances of the 6900 series dropping? Very little i bet :)

Wat would be a good nivdia alternate would i say not including kepler? Not been that side for a long time so dont really keep tabs on there products etc, i always hear the 480 and 560ti mentioned a lot on here tho
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560ti are amazing mid-range cards.

I also saw that Asus 560 ti DCII are dropping in price - personally I'm going to wait another week to see if MSI version gets cheaper, the £200+ these 7850s are selling for at every retailer is just unbelievable.
 
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@ SAGray

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I gave up PC gaming a few months back. Why spend £300+ on just the graphics card, plus everything else to get the full use out of it....PSU, Mobo, CPU, RAM, decent TFT etc etc etc and for what? a very small handful of games which aren't even THAT good.

Times are very much changing, and I can't wait for the next consoles.
 
TheMorningStar said:
I no longer recommend AMD cards to anyone and considering that I'm everyones I.T. guy, that's a lot of everyones.
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So not even cards like the HD6850 1GB which can be had for well under £100??
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I see the 560ti is a very popular card, the problem i have is my 5850 core clock great i have had it at 900mhz core on 1.185v and never seen it go over 60c on high end games, i just need that extra vram that the 5850 lacks to help keep things running smooth

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Dont forget to remove the comp info you mentioned regarding price as well
 
The GTX560TI 448 is dropping in price under £200 and it looks a decent alternative to the HD7850.

TBH,we have so much choice ATM.

You got GTX480,GTX560TI,GTX560TI 448,GTX560,HD7850,HD6870 and GTX460 cards for between £100 to £200 which are all decent cards in their price tiers.

For around under £100 we got the HD6850 1GB(which is now generally cheaper than the GTX460) and even a decent bus powered card in the HD7750.

People really do whinge way too much. The best thing is to vote with your wallet and don't buy the newer cards and at some point the prices will drop.
 
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ALXAndy said:
Sure, it may be close to level with a stock 6950, but I would bet it's way cooler and quieter and has a lot more OC headroom in the tank.
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Few people buy a brand new graphics card and expect to have to overclock it to beat previous generation cards of exactly the same price.

AMD have screwed up PC gaming for the masses, and NVidia are piling on the agony.

I wonder how many developers are going to push the limits of PC gaming if very few people can afford cutting edge cards? By pricing Kepler and the 7000's so high they are hastening the demise of non-console ports. Pretty soon there will be no real benefit to PC gaming, or atleast none worth £270 for a mainstream card or £400+ for top-end'ish. Do they expect the Asian market with their fetish for pirated games to keep PC game development strong?

GK104 at it's designed pricepoint ($299/£240) would have revitalised PC gaming for the enthusiast, and the 7800's at ~£150 may have given a decent alternative to a PS3/360 for the masses. Instead greedy accountants have priced this generation and entire segment above where they should be.

7850 - £190 - should be ~£130
7850 - £280 - should be ~£180
7950 - £330 - should be ~£240
GK104 - £420 - should be ~£250
7970 - £420 - should be ~£320

The fact that GK104 over-achieved is no excuse to bump the price by 75%, and AMD are almost as bad with ~50% bumps over previous gen equivelents.
 
I paid more for my 5850 than what the new 7850 cards are being priced at. I must admit i really like the look of both the sapphire and msi models with there better cooling over reference designs. The sapphire looks like it will remove air from the case better going by the design.

I can see why people may go for the next gen consoles due to the price of high end cards on the market but what card could be compared to what the current xbox graphics prossesor uses?
 
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liamcrane said:
I paid more for my 5850 than what the new 7850 cards are being priced at. I must admit i really like the look of both the sapphire and msi models with there better cooling over reference designs. The sapphire looks like it will remove air from the case better going by the design.
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In games that make no use of tesselation, the 5850 will be about as quick. The 7850 only really pulls ahead through use of more instruction sets, shader hardware and clock speed. For it's time, the 5850 was MUCH better than this. Hell, the 7850 is really the spiritual 5750 replacement. This is a much cheaper card for AMD to produce than the 5850 was.

Logical evolution is 5750 to 6850 to 7850.

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I can see why people may go for the next gen consoles due to the price of high end cards on the market but what card could be compared to what the current xbox graphics prossesor uses?
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When 90% of new AAA PC games are console ports, does it really matter if the consoles are based upon 7800GT era graphics? It is the game itself which makes the game good, graphics make little difference (pretty graphics do not make a poor game good, but a good game can remain good with poor graphics).

It is the humble mouse, more than anything eles that just about keeps PC gaming alive. Who would spend £200-£420 on a mouse?
 
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liamcrane said:
I paid more for my 5850 than what the new 7850 cards are being priced at. I must admit i really like the look of both the sapphire and msi models with there better cooling over reference designs. The sapphire looks like it will remove air from the case better going by the design.

I can see why people may go for the next gen consoles due to the price of high end cards on the market but what card could be compared to what the current xbox graphics prossesor uses?
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I would wait until the HD7870 drops down in price TBH. If anything,the best thing for you to do would wait until the end of the year.

I think by then prices should have gone down a bit as both companies will be starting to pimp their 28NM refreshes.
 
dlknight said:
Liam IMO best thing is to look for a second hand 69xx series card, they've been going for around £160 on the members market. That is if you really need the extra vram? what resolution are you running?
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how do you know what price they are on the members market when you dont have enought posts to see it?
 
rowedogg said:
how do you know what price they are on the members market when you dont have enought posts to see it?
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Because I have been here for quite a few years before the rules were changed.

liamcrane said:
Hi mate, im gaming at full hd on my 24" asus monitor 1920x1080. Ill take a look on the members market and see wats about. Thanks for the advice matey, whats the chances of the 6900 series dropping? Very little i bet :)

Wat would be a good nivdia alternate would i say not including kepler? Not been that side for a long time so dont really keep tabs on there products etc, i always hear the 480 and 560ti mentioned a lot on here tho
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Not sure about Nvidia cards... 1GB should be fine for 1920x1080? I'm really pushing my 5850 now running a total resolution of 5760x1080!!! and can still play in high on BFBC2 and get around 40-50fps. I've never felt the need for a more powerful card when running 1920x1080, run most games at 4xMSAA at that resolution (ME2, ME3, F1 2011, Dirt 2/3, Portal 2 etc)
 
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