Audi owners in here!

Yaayuh! · 5 Mar 2015 at 15:49

panthro said:
Reckon this is a scam? Advert seems genuine, but the low price and lack of phone number makes me think otherwise.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...-tfsi-quattro-black-edition------2011/3756803

Don't know, but that is a nice blue! Makes me wish even more that the Black Edition extended to the silly chrome mirrors

cuke2u · 5 Mar 2015 at 18:44

zooankski said:
Picking up my new A3 S line saloon 1.4 TFSI COD in about 3 weeks time. I am considering the Audi complete servicing and maintenance plan and wondered if anyone has any reviews of this service?
I have been quoted £15 month servicing or £26 month servicing and maintenance inc pretty much every part as far as I can make out.
Obviously £312 a year is a lot of cash but considering a basic service will rush me around £180 + , I am trying to warrant it.

Good choice, I have one too, this forum http://www.audi-sport.net might be of help and there are plenty of video reviews on youtube... My servicing only is under £15 a month and as I only do about 5k a year I have no need for the maintenance option..

shifty_uk · 5 Mar 2015 at 18:55

Robdav said:
guys, looking to get an A4 Avant in the next couple of months. Budget is £10K. Has to be diesel as I do a fair amount of milage. At that budget I'm looking at 58/59 plate examples so is there anything to look out for problem wise? I'd prefer the 170bhp version but will settle for the 140.

Think I asked this earlier in the thread.

When I spoke to Audi/VW techs they recommended the turbo diesels over any petrol equivalent due to reliability. Under no circumstances was I to buy a TFSI, especially having previously experienced a rebuild situation with one.

I'm interested in hearing any stories from owners, though.

[TW]Fox · 5 Mar 2015 at 18:55

The Audi service options are expensive, the equivalent package on the 1 Series is half that. Why do Audi charge so much?

Minstadave · 5 Mar 2015 at 19:07

shifty_uk said:
Think I asked this earlier in the thread.

When I spoke to Audi/VW techs they recommended the turbo diesels over any petrol equivalent due to reliability. Under no circumstances was I to buy a TFSI, especially having previously experienced a rebuild situation with one.

I'm interested in hearing any stories from owners, though.

As far as I've seen the 2.0TFSI is far more reliable than the TDI. Obviously their are fewer TFSIs around but the TDIs commonly have injector and turbo issues.

shifty_uk · 5 Mar 2015 at 19:47

Minstadave said:
As far as I've seen the 2.0TFSI is far more reliable than the TDI. Obviously their are fewer TFSIs around but the TDIs commonly have injector and turbo issues.

Apparently those TFSIs burn oil at an alarming rate and often require rebuilds due to worn piston rings, valve seals etc. I don't know the technicalities, I was just recommended against them.

My current 2.0 TFSI is a previous gen (2006) and I've not had the best of times with it but for different reasons. Its not a massive oil burner, though...unless somethings wrong.

Minstadave · 5 Mar 2015 at 19:52

The supercharged and turbocharged 1.4 was pretty terrible, may have been that they were referring to.

Vertigo · 5 Mar 2015 at 21:14

After the cylinder head cracking issues on the BKD engines and then the injector failure debacle on the 170PS version, I'd hardly call their TDI engines uber-reliable.

Tinders · 5 Mar 2015 at 21:44

Theres not many modern diesels that can be called uber reliable tbh

shifty_uk · 5 Mar 2015 at 22:45

Minstadave said:
The supercharged and turbocharged 1.4 was pretty terrible, may have been that they were referring to.

It was 2.0 as I was discussing A4/A5s.

Sounds hit or miss, really.

Robdav · 6 Mar 2015 at 09:22

So injector and turbo issues on the tdi is concerning but then again you'd get that on any car these days?

zooankski · 6 Mar 2015 at 15:19

chriscatt said:
Good choice, I have one too, this forum http://www.audi-sport.net might be of help and there are plenty of video reviews on youtube... My servicing only is under £15 a month and as I only do about 5k a year I have no need for the maintenance option..

Thanks for the info! Car has now arrived in the UK so looking forward to picking it up. I am going to be doing around the 12-13k a year so might sort out the main package for peace of mind.

shifty_uk said:
Apparently those TFSIs burn oil at an alarming rate and often require rebuilds due to worn piston rings, valve seals etc. I don't know the technicalities, I was just recommended against them.

My current 2.0 TFSI is a previous gen (2006) and I've not had the best of times with it but for different reasons. Its not a massive oil burner, though...unless somethings wrong.

Apparently it affected all 2 litre TFSI units in A3's, A4'S A5's etc from 2007 - 2012. I just picked up an A3 Cabriolet 2.0 TFSI on a 13 plate for my wife and made sure i asked 2 different technicians about the issue before purchase. Both of them mentioned something about a 2011 block (can't confirm or find any info on that) but this car does not have that apparently, time will tell :eek:

The other interesting thing i did pick up is that TFSI and any other direct injection engine can suffer from carbon build up on valves which will reduce efficiency. This is due to no fuel passing over the valves and washing deposits off???

Minstadave · 6 Mar 2015 at 15:40

Yup all direct injection engines have this problem. But diesels clog up the EGR system similarly.

Not sure how much direct injection dpearls suffer from intake valve deposits but can't see why'd they be immune.

Tachyon · 6 Mar 2015 at 19:42

Heres a link to a recent BBC Radio 4 article regarding the excessive oil burning issue.

BBC iPlayer link at bottom of page

shifty_uk · 6 Mar 2015 at 19:55

zooankski said:
Apparently it affected all 2 litre TFSI units in A3's, A4'S A5's etc from 2007 - 2012. I just picked up an A3 Cabriolet 2.0 TFSI on a 13 plate for my wife and made sure i asked 2 different technicians about the issue before purchase. Both of them mentioned something about a 2011 block (can't confirm or find any info on that) but this car does not have that apparently, time will tell

Let us know how you get on with it!

Tachyon said:
Heres a link to a recent BBC Radio 4 article regarding the excessive oil burning issue.

BBC iPlayer link at bottom of page

Thanks for posting. Pretty much sums up what I'd been told previously - avoid.

cuke2u · 7 Mar 2015 at 12:16

[TW]Fox;27732745 said:
The Audi service options are expensive, the equivalent package on the 1 Series is half that. Why do Audi charge so much?

With Ford it was £25 a month for servicing only on my Focus. What mileage and servicing intervals is the BMW based on, mine is a yearly service, is it for newcars and includes the first mot?

Castiel · 7 Mar 2015 at 15:02

[TW]Fox;27732745 said:
The Audi service options are expensive, the equivalent package on the 1 Series is half that. Why do Audi charge so much?

Two year service package on my A6 is £299. That is certainly not expensive.

[TW]Fox · 7 Mar 2015 at 15:12

Castiel said:
Two year service package on my A6 is £299. That is certainly not expensive.

It is when a 5 year service package on a 5 Series is £525.

A 2 year service package on an Audi would cover as little as 1 service which makes £300 seem quite steep.

Castiel · 7 Mar 2015 at 15:40

[TW]Fox;27740330 said:
It is when a 5 year service package on a 5 Series is £525.

Only applies from new...it is more than that if you buy it after the 60 day period after ordering. Audi offer 3-5 years free servicing on most models from new if you push them.

How much is an inspection service on a BMW 520d? if you bought it a year old?

EDIT:

Series 1 BMW 5 year service plan: £425.
Audi A1 flexible 5 year service plan: £289.

[TW]Fox;27740330 said:
A 2 year service package on an Audi would cover as little as 1 service which makes £300 seem quite steep.

No, it includes two services, not one. One inspection and one interim service. It is actually cheaper than having a 2 year service schedule which is £309, strangely. (they will also price match any independent in the area as well, this includes parts and tyres etc)

cuke2u · 7 Mar 2015 at 19:36

My service plan is over three years on a new car including the first mot. Compare like for like...