Australian GP 2009 - Race 1/17 (NOT in HD BTW)

JRS said:
What d'you reckon, Zip? Return to Adelaide, and see crowd figures skyrocket? :D
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Since the Clipsal 500(V8 super cars) were on the weekend just been then i say Merge the 2 events and have Both F1s and the V8s on the same weekend and you will have a full house:cool:

March is packed full of major events in Adelaide, There is always something going on somewhere and pretty big events at that too:)
 
Zip said:
Since the Clipsal 500(V8 super cars) were on the weekend just been then i say Merge the 2 events and have Both F1s and the V8s on the same weekend and you will have a full house:cool:

March is packed full of major events in Adelaide, There is always something going on somewhere and pretty big events at that too:)
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I think one problem would be the quality of the pit lane facilities - Adelaide has a very short pit straight and the buildings may not be up to Bernie's requirements.
 
philjohn said:
I think one problem would be the quality of the pit lane facilities - Adelaide has a very short pit straight and the buildings may not be up to Bernie's requirements.
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If the event would make money, then that can be sorted without ruining the track.

Plus, the Adelaide track is awesome. FACT.

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The Diffuser row is causing confusion.

Brawn, Toyota and Williams are not testing ILLEGAL cars. They have designed and run cars thay have built within their interpretation of the rules. This is clearly a valid interpretation as 3 teams, not just one, have read the rules which mean they belive there cars are perfectly legal. The other 7 teams have built cars and have interpreted the rules differently. All 10 teams will be running cars they have designed to be legal.

If the cars pass scrutenring, then they will be perfectly legal within the current rules. If a team protests it will be for a clarification of the rules, and not specifically that they belive the cars to be illegal. Basically, in simple terms, if Brawn, Williams and Toyota pass scruteninring then the other teams will be asking for the rules to be clarified as clearly if there are 2 interpretations of the rules, the rules are not clear enough.

To be honnest though, its all a bit childish. The Williams rear diffuser turned up what, 2 months ago? Im sure even the slowest developing team could have got together their own design to test in that time, but instead the complaining teams have just taken the easy route and started saying "but siiiir.... their cheating, its not fair!!". Just becasue they didnt spot the oportunity within the rules to have their diffusers like Brawn et al, they dont want anyone to.

Id love for the FIA to clarify the rules saying the Brawn et al diffusers are pefectly legal, and all the other complaining teams to go "oh, bugger, really shyould have developed a new diffuser the last few months, rather than sitting in the corner winging!"
 
Skeeter said:
To be honnest though, its all a bit childish. The Williams rear diffuser turned up what, 2 months ago? Im sure even the slowest developing team could have got together their own design to test in that time, but instead the complaining teams have just taken the easy route and started saying "but siiiir.... their cheating, its not fair!!". Just becasue they didnt spot the oportunity within the rules to have their diffusers like Brawn et al, they dont want anyone to.
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I don't agree at all. The whole premise of the sport is that you compete within the rules; if you believe that what the other team is doing breaks those rules the correct thing to do is to protest it, not start cheating yourself. Which goes double for Renault who were apparently told that doing just that would not be allowed.
 
Mr Jack said:
I don't agree at all. The whole premise of the sport is that you compete within the rules; if you believe that what the other team is doing breaks those rules the correct thing to do is to protest it, not start cheating yourself. Which goes double for Renault who were apparently told that doing just that would not be allowed.
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Yes, if a team starts cheating then you should complain as much as possible.

If however, 3 teams have spotted something within the rules that you have missed, calling 'cheat' is not always the right rout.

The difference comes between someone actually cheating, and you simply believing they are cheating. Its a similar situation to the Ferrari floor. The protest will not be to say "they are cheating, ban them" it will be to say "please clarify the rules to define if what they are doing is cheating, then ban them". There is a small but significant difference. The Media are touting this as teams saying Brawn et al will cheat in the first race, and then possibly get parts banned, which will just cause a repeat of the Ferrari floor argument which winds so many people up.
 
This will be the first time in about 6 years I've even bothered watching qualifying. Likely the only one I watch this year until they do the right thing and bring back laps on fumes.
 
JRS said:
Plus, the Adelaide track is awesome. FACT.
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Yep, some real memorable moments over the years

  • Mansell's 86 blowout
  • This image pretty much sums up Hakkinen in qually. I would kill for a big print on the wall!
  • 94 & 95 for the wrong reasons (Hill/Schumacher then Hakkinen's crash)
  • Alesi's 360 at the first chicane, either 94 or 95 qually. Only cost him about 0.5s IIRC!
  • Frentzen giving Schumacher the bird for blocking during an onboard shot.
  • Alan Jones' comments live on BBC in response to the above. Unfortunately Jonesy wasn't invited back as a result :(
 
Mr Jack said:
I've just noticed no driver gets the number 13. How pathetic is that?
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Its been like that prety much forever. Its probubly a tradition that spawns from the olden days when F1 was very european based. Now that its far more global it seems a bit silly as the number 13 being unlucky is a very western/european thing, to a lot of other countries it holds no significance, and other numbers are considered unlucky.
 
PinkFloyd said:
Awesome! :D

How did that qually lap go - did the car's suspension even survive? lol. That's some serious air for an F1 car.
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I'd need to do some digging to find that out. What I do know is that it's a hell of a lucky shot, the first time I saw it was in one of those "great photos" sections of an old F1 mag with the wee interview with the photographer. He was actually facing the other way, heard the car coming, turned and just fired a random burst. Sometimes you just get lucky!

Dup said:
That certainly inspires me to do some artwork. Would you accept a vector version in your size of choice?
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Hmm, would be interested to see what you come up with but don't go burning a huge amount of time on my behalf.
 
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