Australian Grand Prix 2010, Melbourne - Race 2/19

Why isn't this on the mobile iPlayer site yet?

Are the BBC really that short of processing power that they can't put it up a full 30+ hrs after it went out live? Also, they don't bother putting the F1 forum on the mobile site :confused:
 
xen_ said:
...Buttons call was bang on and Hamiltons overtaking was epic as we have come to expect, and 6th place isn't that bad considering the poor qualifying and the pit stop error.
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I couldn't have put it better myself. 6th place is not a bad result considering everything that happened.

The good thing also is that McLaren picked up some decent points, meaning that we now more have a constructors title battle looming. On top of which, Button has now put himself in the mix (something I never expected).

I don't really think anyone has any cause to complain - the final result was fair.
 
Demon said:
IMO he had a great drive, everything fell his way, from the tyre choice to the Ferrari's being pushed back, to Kubica forming a train, to LH's second pit stop, Vettels brakes exploding..
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When you put it that way, its almost as if he had some form of divine intervention.

:D

Perhaps it is Button who is the Messiah?
 
Call me out for being Stupid or Ignorant but the rain/wet gave less grip making a better race.
Why don't they just reduce the rear wing allowed to reduce the grip & then send them out ?
What am I missing ?
 
Duke said:
Got MS a few titles ;)
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along with a lot of cheating

sunama said:
snip.
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what i was trying to say is that there is a skill to overtaking a similar spec of car - but "outpowering" or being 4s+a lap faster than the car you are passing isnt really that much of a skill imo, and shouldnt be classified as overtaking

Demon said:
But from a 'driving' aspect, I do admit that IMO he didn't have much to actually do. He had Kubica to overtake who wasn't up to speed on the new tyres, and then just keep pounding reasonable laps in..

:)
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Because he had already done the driving aspect on the first lap out of the pits when even the commentry said it was a bad idea!!!

I also think he was putting Vettel under enough pressure to cause the brake failure , it was obvious he was still pushing the RB to the limits (the gap between 1 - 2 was ever chanigng between 3 - 5 s which is nothing at all) and remember RB's are meant to be unquestionablly the better car (even if it is unreliable)

To be able to tell (on knackered inters) that the track was ready for slicks, when no other drivers could is pretty ***** impressive if you ask me, without even considering the fact he is still getting used to the car

NathanE said:
Don't forget Jenson's "omg how this car be sooooo bad at the moment!?!?!?!" radio comment in mid-2009.
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Personally cant see that comment in the same light - that was after a lot of wins in a brilliant car, and if anything JB's moan is about the charachteristic change to the car regarding ambient/track temps - not directly attacking the team as LH did yesterday
 
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FrankJH said:
I also think he was putting Vettel under enough pressure to cause the brake failure , it was obvious he was still pushing the RB to the limits (the gap between 1 - 2 was ever chanigng between 3 - 5 s which is nothing at all) and remember RB's are meant to be unquestionablly the better car (even if it is unreliable)
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An interesting opinion, but for me I don't agree, Vettel looked under no pressure at all, and the brakes failed in a sudden manner (one lap sparks, then bang), not gradual cooking of them (AFAIK).

To be able to tell (on knackered inters) that the track was ready for slicks, when no other drivers could is pretty ***** impressive if you ask me, without even considering the fact he is still getting used to the car
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This is where my opinion differs. His tyres where knackered, and he was struggling for pace, he was in a position where he had to get a new set of tyres or start falling back, so he 'had' to make a choice, and I'm sure as a driver in the car, he was best placed to call the slicks.. However I think the other drivers where all managing OK on slicks, wheren't dropping off the pace and so didn't have to come in for tyres, so never had to make such a choice.. so we'd never know..


Only IMO of course, I am happy that these things can be seen in different lights :)

I rate JB pretty high as drivers go, so you won't find me trying to argue he's anything but!
 
malc30 said:
Call me out for being Stupid or Ignorant but the rain/wet gave less grip making a better race.
Why don't they just reduce the rear wing allowed to reduce the grip & then send them out ?
What am I missing ?
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Next year they need to re-try the reduction of the diffuser, that's what gives them grip and makes them impossible to follow.

In 2008 both Ross Braun and Martin Whitmarsh pointed out the potential loop-hole which Braun exploited.
 
Demon said:
An interesting opinion, but for me I don't agree, Vettel looked under no pressure at all, and the brakes failed in a sudden manner (one lap sparks, then bang), not gradual cooking of them (AFAIK).!
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At that point of the race 3.5 - 5s lead would never be enough - Vettel was still pushing as hard as he could to get a bigger lead (and remember of course RB supposedly have higher tyre wear, so he might have struggled in latter stages had he got that far so therefore requiring a much bigger lead also)

Just because failure was sudden doesnt mean that it wasnt the pressure from behind that caused it.

Demon said:
This is where my opinion differs. His tyres where knackered, and he was struggling for pace, he was in a position where he had to get a new set of tyres or start falling back, so he 'had' to make a choice, and I'm sure as a driver in the car, he was best placed to call the slicks.. However I think the other drivers where all managing OK on slicks, wheren't dropping off the pace and so didn't have to come in for tyres, so never had to make such a choice.. so we'd never know.. !
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Everyone was on inters at that point - no one started the race on full dry's / slicks as far as Im aware

but the SAFE option would still have been to go onto the same tyres he was coming from given the track etc etc and more rain was expected by everyone

He was best place to call for slicks, but it was still ballsy given everyone else (commentators and team personal on The Wall and JA) thought he had made the wrong move. All other drivers were managing ok on INTERS not slicks, huge difference

I totally agree - its only my opinion :)
 
FrankJH said:
He was best place to call for slicks, but it was still ballsy given everyone else (commentators and team personal on The Wall and JA) thought he had made the wrong move. All other drivers were managing ok on INTERS not slicks, huge difference
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I think everybody on the planet who was watching the race (bar JRS of course), thought that he had made a big mstake going onto slicks. Even Button himself, when he went into the pitlane to change tyres, thought he had made a big mistake, however, after a lap or so on those tyres, Button realised that he had done the right thing.
 
mmj_uk said:
I wonder if things would've been any different if his dad had still been sitting in the garage as his manager, I'm sure Anthony would've been asking why not just leave Lewis out since he had track position.
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His dad would want Whitmarsh removed or he would threaten to take his ball elsewhere, just as he did with Ron.

NathanE said:
Don't forget Jenson's "omg how this car be sooooo bad at the moment!?!?!?!" radio comment in mid-2009.
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Thats completely different to coming over the radio mid race and asking to know who made the call and then afterwards saying he was going to find out.

I never heard Jenson blame anyone but himself last year when things didn't go right. He was constantly saying areas he needed to improve.

Jenson didn't look to point the finger of blame at the team or an individual he took it as a collective failing.

Lewis is a great driver, he just needs to wind his neck in stop being a playboy and get the **** on with it ;)
 
NathanE said:
Do you think LH has found out by now and used some kung-fu on them? :D
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haha I think he went charging in and they pointed him towards a big hairy arse trucker and said "Go speak to him he made the call" ;)

He then hid behind the pussy cat doll.

You watch how focused he will be for the next race, it's probably just the kickstart he needed.
 
Yup my thoughts exactly. In the past when things like this have happened it has only just made him stronger in the next race.

Just think... Canada 08 and France 08... two shockingly bad races for him... then he delivers that absolute masterpiece at Silverstone :)

Personally I am liking Hamilton's new dark-side :D Do you think his light saber will glow Red soon? :o
 
Iam surprised there wasnt a red glow from his visor during the race, he drove like he was extremely peed off.

mclaren should do something to bug him before the start of each race ;-)

excellent to see though, a driver giving a damn compared to the last races endru-thinking and a few drivers barely bothering this time round.
 
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