Australian Grand Prix 2016, Melbourne - Race 1/21
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That's the problem, logically you put them in running order after any cars that don't make changes. Which then means everyone makes changes because there isn't a penalty to their position, which means nothing would change.
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Ban changes under the red flag. Full parc ferme conditions.
Damaged your front wing? Tyres knackered? Change them following the restart.
Maybe you changed at exactly the right time (before a red flag) and it benefits, or maybe you didn't. At least it would give the excitement/randomness that a SC does.
Currently all the red flag does is neutralise the race which is fine if there are plenty of laps remaining and at worst ruins the race if it happens toward the end.
Damaged your front wing? Tyres knackered? Change them following the restart.
Maybe you changed at exactly the right time (before a red flag) and it benefits, or maybe you didn't. At least it would give the excitement/randomness that a SC does.
Currently all the red flag does is neutralise the race which is fine if there are plenty of laps remaining and at worst ruins the race if it happens toward the end.
This. It works both ways, so neither allowing or banning changes solves the problem.
Rosberg fans will be thinking that the Red Flag was a great help to their driver.
Had the front drivers all been on the same strategy the Red Flag would have closed them all up and improved the race.
Imagine you have a crash that scatters carbon fibre all over the track and half the field have punctures, and a load of drivers have lost their front wings yet carried on. Do you force them all to restart with broken cars?
Imagine it rains suddenly and heavily. Everyone is on slicks, and the race gets Red Flagged for safety reasons. When the race restarts its full wet conditions. Do you force everyone to restart on slicks on a wet track, having stopped the race because everyone was... running slicks on a wet track?
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Rosberg fans?
Good race actually
Watched on 4od obviously
Really happy that you can use 3 compounds in the .
Personally I'd rather all compounds be open at the allocation phase just for potential of screw ups down to team/driver
Same amount of tyres.. But you can choose between all 5
Chuck 1 set of ultra softs so if your tyres die 5 laps from flag go balls deep for it!
Simple question.. Why on the tyre graphics are the colours sometimes inverted?
Don't care to discuss red flag rules. Think they are fine as they are. Jus like rain can help or hinder it's rare enough that it doest need changing t
Watched on 4od obviously
Really happy that you can use 3 compounds in the .
Personally I'd rather all compounds be open at the allocation phase just for potential of screw ups down to team/driver
Same amount of tyres.. But you can choose between all 5
Chuck 1 set of ultra softs so if your tyres die 5 laps from flag go balls deep for it!
Simple question.. Why on the tyre graphics are the colours sometimes inverted?
Don't care to discuss red flag rules. Think they are fine as they are. Jus like rain can help or hinder it's rare enough that it doest need changing t
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Designates a used or new set.
Hey guys, not really watched F1 in a few years since the races were turning into boring processions, and from a glance over this year's regs it doesn't look like that's changed much, but I thought I'd pop in and ask if it this race was worth watching or if I should wait another year. Cheers!
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His wife presumably, and maybe his one year old.
Finally got around to watching the race today, was out all day yesterday although when still half asleep I stupidly checked BBC and saw the winner, but at least the race was far from straight forward and worth watching 
I liked Verstappen's move on Palmer, but not great he went a bit mental afterwards including hitting his teammate. Can kind of see why but he needs to calm down and get on with it, not wreck his front wing by running into his teammate, could've easily taken both out with that.
I was worried when they first showed the Alonso crash, wow that's a very ex-Mclaren, really glad (and extremely impressed) the car held up so well and he was 'fine'.
Haas/Grosjean getting 6th first time out is really good for the races really, I don't care if they 'cheated' with the Ferrari deal having a new team being competitive is more important, and although it was a train originally he then pulled away from Hulkenberg so fair play, decent baseline.
Overall the mid-field battles looked like it should be a fun season there, and Ferrari may have closed the gap, Merc still has the edge but less room for error. I liked the 3 tyres, perhaps an oddball race but seemed to have more effect than you'd expect, hope that continues over the season. Podium was as expected really but nice to have an eventful race
I liked Verstappen's move on Palmer, but not great he went a bit mental afterwards including hitting his teammate. Can kind of see why but he needs to calm down and get on with it, not wreck his front wing by running into his teammate, could've easily taken both out with that.
I was worried when they first showed the Alonso crash, wow that's a very ex-Mclaren, really glad (and extremely impressed) the car held up so well and he was 'fine'.
Haas/Grosjean getting 6th first time out is really good for the races really, I don't care if they 'cheated' with the Ferrari deal having a new team being competitive is more important, and although it was a train originally he then pulled away from Hulkenberg so fair play, decent baseline.
Overall the mid-field battles looked like it should be a fun season there, and Ferrari may have closed the gap, Merc still has the edge but less room for error. I liked the 3 tyres, perhaps an oddball race but seemed to have more effect than you'd expect, hope that continues over the season. Podium was as expected really but nice to have an eventful race
Grosjean only finished 6th because they effectively didn't pit with the red flag situation - it helped them tremendously and over flattered their actual pace, but hats off to Grosjean for making his tyres last and driving a great race, I just wouldn't be expecting more of the same in Bahrain...
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Grosjean had the same tires and length of time on them as almost everyone else, Magnussen made medium tires last 56 laps and we know he didn't change them in the red flag as he only had one set for the weekend. Most other drivers either pitted one lap before the red flag or put mediums on during the red flag so Grosjean had a couple less laps on those tires than almost everyone else expect Magnussen who did a Rosberg at Russia in 2014, ruined tires first lap(though it wasn't his fault unlike Rosberg) then did all but one lap on one set of tires.
I think one or both williams pitted before the red flag as did Hamilton so they all had the cost of the pitstop added while Grosjean didn't. I'm glad for Haas but it's ultimately a Ferrari built car with a few changes made to make them look different... if Merc built two extra cars, made a few random changes and handed them to a new team would we really expect massive problems and bad performance from them?
Honestly I hope Haas diverge from being a Ferrari B team asap and then see how they do making their own car. It's fairly hard to route for a 'new' team that was essentially handed designs for a new car from an existing massive budget team, one that used a badly written rule for completely unlimited aero testing all last year.
Skill, Verstappen didn't run into Sainz, Sainz locked up, ended up way slower and Verstappen couldn't avoid him.
I think one or both williams pitted before the red flag as did Hamilton so they all had the cost of the pitstop added while Grosjean didn't. I'm glad for Haas but it's ultimately a Ferrari built car with a few changes made to make them look different... if Merc built two extra cars, made a few random changes and handed them to a new team would we really expect massive problems and bad performance from them?
Honestly I hope Haas diverge from being a Ferrari B team asap and then see how they do making their own car. It's fairly hard to route for a 'new' team that was essentially handed designs for a new car from an existing massive budget team, one that used a badly written rule for completely unlimited aero testing all last year.
Skill, Verstappen didn't run into Sainz, Sainz locked up, ended up way slower and Verstappen couldn't avoid him.
The 2017 regulations are going to revert F1 to pure processions with zero overtakes, so this year is as good as its going to get for the considerable future.
He kept a DRS equipped Williams and Force India behind him for 30+ laps. That wasn't just being lucky.
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Very much this, he also broke the DRS gap to the Force India as well. If the has truly was a much slower car then it would have been passed.
All the talk of Verstappen losing his head etc, ramming his team mate, I personally think is a little bit of an overreaction. He drove fantastically and in a very exciting manner. When he clipped Sainz, Sainz had locked up and was blocking off the breaking area as well, and all the moaning on the radio was great.
I am pleased TR didn't force them to switch as it let us see just how good verstappen is, he fell back due to his spin and then caught up to sainz in no time at all!
I cant wait to see him in a Ferrari or a Mercedes or Redbull (with a better engine!).
Like dm said it's just a rebadged Ferrari anyway so it's not as if they're a brand new team, it's not exactly remarkable.
I thought it made him look a bit of a nob and I would have told him to calm down and just race for the team. He was lucky he didn't take Sainz out otherwise he would've looked like a complete minky and the team wouldn't have been impressed.
It was the demands to swap places with Sainz that irked me.