Poll: Australian Grand Prix 2022, Melbourne - Race 3
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Soldato
Yes commenting on the crowd's response at a race, not on these obsessive and juvenile posts in this forum that I was referring to...
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I guess working with the FIA to develop the new E10 fuel has been quite useful
Soldato
I doubt if any advantage would have been allowed by the FIA and we know that the engines all have parity.I guess working with the FIA to develop the new E10 fuel has been quite useful
The differences in performance between the Ferrari and the RB at this race was purely down to the differences in the setups and the weights of the cars. In hindsight RB went the wrong way leading to understeer, and we know Max prefers a more 'pointy' car. After only three races we cannot yet predict what might happen in the future...
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How do we know the engines have parity? If that was the case the FIA would have known Merc actually wound-down their engine in 2014 (running it on an idle setting for fear of Bernie and co finding out how much pace in hand they had, according to Paddy Lowe). I'm not saying the FIA have given Ferrari a freebie by allowing them to help develop the E10 fuel but this is the same FIA that failed to notice the Scuderia only running one electrical energy sensor when they had two batteries (allowing them to potentially pump out more power on one battery than the other measured battery... and the same FIA that made a behind-closed-doors deal with Ferrari after they were suspected of gaming the fuel flow sensor.
What the FIA know and what they think they know, are two very different things but it's hilarious to say all the engines have parity.
Soldato
New engine rules this year, as posted in a previous thread https://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-formula-1-engine-parity/ as stated by the FIA head of single seaters Nikolas Tombazis.
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"Largely similar" still leaves enough vagueness for there to be considerable differences... e.g 10-20hp each way of whatever is seen as the average
Soldato
Open to any interpretation I guess but the aim of the new rules is to bring about engine parity. To me that suggests no one team has a great engine advantage over any other.
Unless you think Ferrari are cheating?
Unless you think Ferrari are cheating?
Soldato
I think the problem is fuel rather than the engine. Given the fuel has cooling properties and we're limited on fuel flow for efficiency, I think some teams are having to turn down their engines more than others for reliability and fuel saving, rather than someone having a huge bhp advantage.
It would be interesting to know who benchmarks the engines and how they compare them, but I guess they all have a similar parity for potental power but maybe a race distance isn't factored into that.
It would be interesting to know who benchmarks the engines and how they compare them, but I guess they all have a similar parity for potental power but maybe a race distance isn't factored into that.
Soldato
Good point...
There is also the weight issue https://maxf1.net/en/weight-problems-for-2022-f1-cars-only-one-bellow-795-kg/
There is also the weight issue https://maxf1.net/en/weight-problems-for-2022-f1-cars-only-one-bellow-795-kg/
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Let's just make F1 a spec series.
One powertrain from one manufacturer for all teams.
One chassis from one manufacturer for all teams.
One aero package, identical across all teams, only very minor adjustments allowed.
Maybe then a few people on here might be happy.
But most who enjoy F1 as the pinnacle will be bored to death.
For us purists, the whole point of F1, is that everything is different, some have better engines and more power than others.
Some have better aero and chassis than others.
Some will dominate for several seasons, others have to work hard to catch up.
THAT is what makes it exciting.
THAT is what makes it interesting.
Not a spec series borefest, with everything identical.
One powertrain from one manufacturer for all teams.
One chassis from one manufacturer for all teams.
One aero package, identical across all teams, only very minor adjustments allowed.
Maybe then a few people on here might be happy.
But most who enjoy F1 as the pinnacle will be bored to death.
For us purists, the whole point of F1, is that everything is different, some have better engines and more power than others.
Some have better aero and chassis than others.
Some will dominate for several seasons, others have to work hard to catch up.
THAT is what makes it exciting.
THAT is what makes it interesting.
Not a spec series borefest, with everything identical.
You "agreed" with a post saying "we're not all shallow morons cheering misfortune."
..yet on another day you think banter from fans, and cheering when misfortune strikes your guy's rival is ok?
I would never wish any injury or anything etc to any of the drivers, but I will heartily cheer everytime I see Max's Red Bull give up on him.
Exactly, NOT what F1 should be.
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I have to admit given the fears part way through last season that there would be very little variation between everyone's car I've been impressed by how much difference there has been in both design and performance.
Soldato
There is a whole lot of difference between childish name calling by trolls in here and crowd banter and I'm sorry you don't get it. Really there no point in carrying what is a meaningless argument just for the sake of it. Kinda proves a point though there are some more interested in arguing than in f1...
Not really. I think what is posted here, is mostly just banter as well. I don't think much of it should be taken that seriously.
It's a load of rich men driving fast cars around, making lots of money for executives and advertisers. If i want to make Christian Horner a pantomime villain, i will
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Soldato
If that's the cynical attitude in here towards f1, the drivers and the teams, then it is of no surprise that there is a lack of real f1 fans that contribute and are turned off by this forum.
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Soldato
You don't seem to understand commercialism, all publicity is good publicity, they want you to argue about it. They want to create contrived controversy. If it doesn't happen naturally they'll make something up. Driving around in circles isn't enough.
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