Australian skills shortage

That is pretty much just part of the UK mentality. "This country is going to the dogs" has been said by many generations. That said, the austerity policies of last 10 years or so + brexit have left us performing less well than we would have compared to competing countries.
Its abit different now compared to other generations when you actually start to see the decline effecting you and people around you. Not a bunch of privileged old people saying "it was better in the old days" while they chill on their nice pension and only had one job since they left school at 16.
 
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Its abit different now compared to other generations when you actually start to see the decline effecting you and people around you. Not a bunch of privileged old people saying "it was better in the old days" while they chill on their nice pension and only had one job since they left school at 16.
I think that depends on a lot of factors. I’ve generally not found that to be the case at least with friends and colleagues in London. I can fully understand not everyone’s situation is the same. I certainly rate London as one of the best cities in the world. I think Tokyo is probably the only other place I would consider if I was looking for that awesome huge city feel. I like to visit Europe but for me it’s a step down in pay and doesn’t offer me anything more than the UK. Again not everyone’s circumstances are the same so can’t speak for everyone.
 
Are the ones who left just people who have more get up and go and valuable skills and would have been doing better than the losers in the group if they'd stayed here anyway?

Dont think so to be honest, the one of us that are doing will that stayed might fall into that catagory though lol.
 
Wonder if there are any nice areas. I fancy the climate but from what limited experience I've seen much of Australia isn't really mountains/forest.

Will have a look though as I would love to get out of the UK.
 
The Republic of Ireland (listed as Ireland on the EU website) is in the EU.

As a British citizen (non-EU person), under the common travel agreement, you can live and work there just like an Irish citizen can live and work here.

The path to Irish citizenship is lowers for UK people as we don't use the residency calculator. So you can stay, I think 5 years in Ireland, then apply for citizenship. You'd immediately become an EU citizen.

I'm surprised you don't know this already as its been discussed before by those who wanted back in the EU.

Comprehension fail on your part, me thinks.

You suggested:

Why can't we have both CANZUK and the EU?

We already have an interconnected system with the EU when it comes to the Republic of Ireland, the Common Travel Area.

I'm merely pointing out that in your single example as if to evidence your point you used the RoI only, which already had an existing system connected with the UK. The CTA is nothing to do with the EU and predates it's existence. But you seem to suggest that was an example of the EU interconnection, which is false. I pointed out that RoI is not the EU and the EU is not RoI, not that RoI it is not in the EU.

We used to have great 'interconnected system' with the EU but a few people suggested they no longer wanted that.
 
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If you have been working in Europe as a contractor then you pretty much know not many have a very high opinion about the UK and living there either, especially since Brexit, so lets get that out the way first :D
Actually, I'd say that British expats are the worst in this regards, especially those who have been stuck in one place for a number of years. It's like they feel a constant need to justify where they moved to. This is something I noticed way before Brexit was even a glint in Cameron's eye.

I work now for a large tech company, with mainly Europeans and Americans who love living in London. I almost feel like I take living here a bit too much for granted.
 
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Wonder if there are any nice areas. I fancy the climate but from what limited experience I've seen much of Australia isn't really mountains/forest.

Will have a look though as I would love to get out of the UK.
NZ might suit you better.
 
Actually, I'd say that British expats are the worst in this regards, especially those who have been stuck in one place for a number of years. It's like they feel a constant need to justify where they moved to. This is something I noticed way before Brexit was even a glint in Cameron's eye.

I work now for a large tech company, with mainly Europeans and Americans who love living in London. I almost feel like I take living here a bit too much for granted.
My impression is that the UK is a good place for careers in big tech, including the chance to get senior positions at US tech companies - opportunities are fewer and farther between outside the UK. The comp for this type of company and role is great also.
 
Wonder if there are any nice areas. I fancy the climate but from what limited experience I've seen much of Australia isn't really mountains/forest.

Will have a look though as I would love to get out of the UK.

You are very misinformed. You have everything in Australia and neighbouring New Zealand.

I did the Kuranda Scenic Railway with my dad back in the day. Simply stunning.


I did end up getting a massive tick on my back though from hanging around Kuala's ended up ripping it out with my fingers. Didn't go down too well!
 
My impression is that the UK is a good place for careers in big tech, including the chance to get senior positions at US tech companies - opportunities are fewer and farther between outside the UK. The comp for this type of company and role is great also.
Fully agree. London especially. It’s the 3rd biggest tech city in the world and has a good chance of becoming the 2nd biggest. The opportunities and pay could only be beaten by going to the US.
 
Fully agree. London especially. It’s the 3rd biggest tech city in the world and has a good chance of becoming the 2nd biggest. The opportunities and pay could only be beaten by going to the US.

Okay you get the money but the place is a cess pit for the vast majority of people.
 
Okay you get the money but the place is a cess pit for the vast majority of people.

And that's the problem with working in London. Good thing the pandemic accelerated the opportunity for people to work from home. Instead of being told, you need to move to London to do X job like I was :rolleyes:
 
And that's the problem with working in London. Good thing the pandemic accelerated the opportunity for people to work from home. Instead of being told, you need to move to London to do X job like I was :rolleyes:
Wait until your employer realises they could quite as easily hire someone much cheaper in another country rather than someone living in Switzerland working from home. ;)

I try to go into the office once a week, it's nice to meet colleagues, have a change of scenery and float ideas around/see what others are doing. Plus I have a lot of friends scattered around London so it's nice to catch up for drinks/food etc. I could understand wanting to stay indoors in the evenings posting on UK forums and watching British TV if you lived in Switzerland though. Not much else to do.
 
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I'm merely pointing out that in your single example as if to evidence your point you used the RoI only, which already had an existing system connected with the UK. The CTA is nothing to do with the EU and predates it's existence. But you seem to suggest that was an example of the EU interconnection, which is false. I pointed out that RoI is not the EU and the EU is not RoI, not that RoI it is not in the EU.

We used to have great 'interconnected system' with the EU but a few people suggested they no longer wanted that.
Other people seemed to understand what I was meaning. Though I admit I didn't write it out in long form so if it give a misrepresentation to you when you was reading it then apologises.
 
I don't believe any civilised nation really has any skills shortages. They just need to offer more money or try better to find people, or offer training programmes.
 
Wait until your employer realises they could quite as easily hire someone much cheaper in another country rather than someone living in Switzerland working from home. ;)

I try to go into the office once a week, it's nice to meet colleagues, have a change of scenery and float ideas around/see what others are doing. Plus I have a lot of friends scattered around London so it's nice to catch up for drinks/food etc. I could understand wanting to stay indoors in the evenings posting on UK forums and watching British TV if you lived in Switzerland though. Not much else to do.

How long have we been hearing.....?!?! "We going to outsource to India and cheaper countries" and here we talking about skills shortage such as in the IT sector :D

That said, Switzerland isnt like the UK and quick to outsource everything. They like the keep everything in house, such as the transport infrastructure to maintain the engineers and not all the best high paid jobs are in their capital city Bern. Unlike the UK, they want everything to be in London. As if there isn't good decent paid jobs outside the M25.
Oh, just like the UK. Its a bank holiday here today. Bugger all open to do anything unless you want go hiking in the dark :p

And whats British TV again!?!?! :D
 
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