Av and Speakers help.

Oddney · 28 Mar 2023 at 14:53

Kenai said:
Guessing you're looking av.com by the some of the bundles you've listed, I was initially tempted to suggest the Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 HCP 5.1.2 Speaker Package, Black at £625 rather than the Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 HCP 5.1.4 Speaker Package, Black at £749 - the £125 difference adds 2 more Atmos height speakers which could be added for £140 yourself later and to pair that package with your choice of receiver - such as the X3800 at £1,200 from Richer Sounds as suggested above. You'd be at a total of £1,825 for an X3800 with 5.1.2 or £1,950 for X3800 with 5.1.4.

Then I looked at the X4700 with 5.1.4 AV Bundle you mentioned and noticed it's £1,899, which sits right in the middle.

It does seem a decently priced bundle and there's not much in the way of deals being offered including the X3800 by the look of it.

Does the X3800 feel like it's worth an extra £50 over the X4700 is the question?

the extra £50 for the av yes if it has 6 hdmi that support 120mz as the x4700 only supports one hdmi.. that would mean i would have to choose tv xbox or ps5

Oddney · 28 Mar 2023 at 14:55

hornetstinger said:
That monoprice will be perfect, it's this system he was only asking £800 for the five speakers

Monoprice Monolith THX-365T Mini-Tower and THX-365C Center Speaker Review

The Monolith THX-365T and 365C are some of the most inexpensive THX-Ultra certified home audio speakers to ever have been produced. How do they perform? Read on to find out.

www.audioholics.com

Who was asking ? dude your confusing me !

hornetstinger · 28 Mar 2023 at 14:57

Oddney said:
Who was asking ? dude your confusing me !

I'm trying to find you a speaker package that is much better than that wharfedale. If it's still available for £800 I would recommend you get that over the wharfedale setup.

It's THX Ultra, build is much better plus it's got all four atmos atmos height speakers already (upfirers)

Oddney · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:00

hornetstinger said:
I'm trying to find you a speaker package that is much better than that wharfedale. If it's still available for £800 I would recommend you get that over the wharfedale setup.

It's THX Ultra, build is much better plus it's got all four atmos atmos height speakers already (upfirers)

The Wharfedale Setup is a webpage or forum page ?

hornetstinger · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:03

Oddney said:
The Wharfedale Setup is a webpage or forum page ?

what?

Click on that audioholics link I posted, that's the 5 speaker kit that might be available (the center, front pair, rear pair), I'm waiting his reply.

Since it has atmos built in, it's 5.0.4. You'll just need a active subwoofer, and you can choose from any brand and model.

Monoprice Monolith THX-365T Mini-Tower and THX-365C Center Speaker Review

The Monolith THX-365T and 365C are some of the most inexpensive THX-Ultra certified home audio speakers to ever have been produced. How do they perform? Read on to find out.

www.audioholics.com

Oddney · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:06

hornetstinger said:
what?

Click on that audioholics link I posted, that's the 5 speaker kit that might be available (the center, front pair, rear pair), I'm waiting his reply.

Since it has atmos built in, it's 5.0.4. You'll just need a active subwoofer, and you can choose from any brand and model.

Monoprice Monolith THX-365T Mini-Tower and THX-365C Center Speaker Review

The Monolith THX-365T and 365C are some of the most inexpensive THX-Ultra certified home audio speakers to ever have been produced. How do they perform? Read on to find out.

www.audioholics.com

i get you now, buy 2 sets of them speakers (pair) i will have 4 with atmos and i would just need a sub and av.

hornetstinger · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:17

Oddney said:
i get you now, buy 2 sets of them speakers (pair) i will have 4 with atmos and i would just need a sub and av.

Yup. His sale included

Four 365T vertical speaker. Each one is main speaker plus a upfiring atmos speaker (so that is L, R, Back L, Back R)
Center

So just need AVR and subwoofer.

hornetstinger · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:18

He's just replied he's decided to keep them.

decto · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:18

Oddney said:
Small room mate i don't want to over do it on speakers I'm thinking 5.1.2 would be enough, if i need some at a later date i could add to more.
if your job is to confuse me its working i just want a AV with speakers that does what i need it to do ie my LG C1 for movies and Tv shows xbox series x and PS5 for gaming

Centre, front left and front right do most of the work, rears and heights have minimal power requirements as the are only fill in.
X3800 is plenty to rattle the cones at an uncomfortable volume.

Almost any branded bookshelf speaker up will give a decent experience. Beyond that you're in the realm of personal preference. E.g. what sounds good to you.

Avoid the tiny micro speakers and if possible set the front speakers at least 12 inches from the wall and corners.

Kenai · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:45

hornetstinger said:
That monoprice will be perfect, it's this system he was only asking £800 for the five speakers

Monoprice Monolith THX-365T Mini-Tower and THX-365C Center Speaker Review

The Monolith THX-365T and 365C are some of the most inexpensive THX-Ultra certified home audio speakers to ever have been produced. How do they perform? Read on to find out.

www.audioholics.com

Only £800 for the speakers, a receiver is going to be £1,200, so £0 budget for a sub left. Should be able to get something amazing for £0 i'm sure

decto · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:51

hornetstinger said:
He's just replied he's decided to keep them.

Probably for the best. 4 x up firing speakers in a small room will be difficult to place ideally and likely to wash out any benefit of .4 Vs .2

I prefer small physical speakers for height.

Kenai · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:52

Oddney said:
the extra £50 for the av yes if it has 6 hdmi that support 120mz as the x4700 only supports one hdmi.. that would mean i would have to choose tv xbox or ps5

In which case i'd personally be aiming for the X3800 from Richer Sounds at £1,200 and pair it with the 5.1.2 speaker package, which leaves you a chunk of your budget to throw into stands/cables/connectors etc.

decto · 28 Mar 2023 at 15:59

Kenai said:
Only £800 for the speakers, a receiver is going to be £1,200, so £0 budget for a sub left. Should be able to get something amazing for £0 i'm sure

I'd seriously look to pick up a set of 5.0 used but loved for £2-300 and spend the other £500 on a decent sub like a BK Monolith.

Don't have the run the sub flat out, and for frequency response, size matters.

Add in heights later

Oddney · 28 Mar 2023 at 16:32

Kenai said:
In which case i'd personally be aiming for the X3800 from Richer Sounds at £1,200 and pair it with the 5.1.2 speaker package, which leaves you a chunk of your budget to throw into stands/cables/connectors etc.

deffo going to go with the X3800 i tied between getting - Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 HCP 5.1 Speaker Package, White and adding 2 atmos like Mission LX-3D MkII Surround Speaker (Pair), White more or maybe later depending on the cost of plugs wires stands etc.

or the --Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 HCP 5.1.4 Speaker Package, Black which is the same price as above.

difference is ones package is white one is black, white packages i can have 2 atmos black package comes with 4 for the same price.

hornetstinger · 28 Mar 2023 at 19:48

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decto · 28 Mar 2023 at 20:51

Oddney said:
deffo going to go with the X3800 i tied between getting - Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 HCP 5.1 Speaker Package, White and adding 2 atmos like Mission LX-3D MkII Surround Speaker (Pair), White more or maybe later depending on the cost of plugs wires stands etc.

or the --Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 HCP 5.1.4 Speaker Package, Black which is the same price as above.

difference is ones package is white one is black, white packages i can have 2 atmos black package comes with 4 for the same price.

KabelDirekt speaker wire is fine. 2.5mm should be plenty but if you want to push it, 4mm on the fronts and center. No need to spend more, I have some of their banana plugs too which are fine.

My rears don't have banana plugs as they sit flush to wall so the 4mm I originally bought wouldn't fit in the connectors.

Really depends on your colour preference, I have white to blend in a little in the lounge.

The sub in those packages is pretty poor.
You can buy the speakers separately, Fronts , rear, center and a pair of heights then put the rest to a better sub. Might take you slightly over budget but a good sub will have far more impact than a second set of heights.

hornetstinger · 28 Mar 2023 at 20:57

What about this?

Apart from the sub but that'll do until you get something better

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hornetstinger · 28 Mar 2023 at 21:08

decto said:
KabelDirekt speaker wire is fine. 2.5mm should be plenty but if you want to push it, 4mm on the fronts and center. No need to spend more, I have some of their banana plugs too which are fine.

My rears don't have banana plugs as they sit flush to wall so the 4mm I originally bought wouldn't fit in the connectors.

Really depends on your colour preference, I have white to blend in a little in the lounge.

The sub in those packages is pretty poor.
You can buy the speakers separately, Fronts , rear, center and a pair of heights then put the rest to a better sub. Might take you slightly over budget but a good sub will have far more impact than a second set of heights.

You shouldn't push speakers against the wall, especially if they're rear ported

decto · 28 Mar 2023 at 21:57

hornetstinger said:
You shouldn't push speakers against the wall, especially if they're rear ported

True, I posted something similar earlier in the thread.

I have Dali Opticon LCR up front which are designed to be wall mounted and Dali Alteco C1 rear which can either be upfiring or wall mounted, mine are wall mounted.
The Alteco don't support banana plugs so there is a limit on the cable thickness in the spring clamps.

The Dali were wife friendly when we redecorated. Sadly my trusty 4 x Q Acoustics 1030i + 2000Ci Center were demoted as black towers didn't fit in with the room layout.
Still need to see if the local charity shop will take them as they've been cluttering up the spare room for the last year or so.

Looks like all the "Wharfedale D300 3D Surround Speakers" as part of the package are designed for wall mount and have banana plugs so perhaps not an issue for the OP, though 4mm cable is still overkill for any surround or height speakers.

hornetstinger · 28 Mar 2023 at 22:09

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