AVB leaves Chelsea (sacked)

Pigeon_Killer said:
They need a yes man who'll take it up the backside from the owner, bow down to player pressure and stick with the 30+ year olds that still think they're the future of the club. Does such a manager exist?
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Steve Kean? :p

To be honest Abramovich may as well just get a puppet and do it himself because he's never happy.

Player power at Chelski is a disgrace, half a dozen over the hill players wrecking a rebuilding effort, pathetic.
 
No1newts said:
Steve Kean? :p

To be honest Abramovich may as well just get a puppet and do it himself because he's never happy.

Player power at Chelski is a disgrace, half a dozen over the hill players wrecking a rebuilding effort, pathetic.
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This sums it up best on reddit

Hire a 33year old manager on a multi year deal with the goal of building a successful side around youth. Sack him after 6 months because the aging stars are throwing a hissy fit.

Good job Abramovich
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Feel bad for AVB but I guess RA wants to guarantee a top 4 finish and while I'm not sure Di Matteo is the right man to guarantee that the Chelsea players obviously weren't interested in giving their all for AVB

I suspect whoever takes over in the summer will be given a lot of money to address the squad rather than having to try and work with it for a season. Just hope it's not Mourinho that takes over....
 
Luckily, I don't think Gus has a high enough profile yet.....hopefully:)

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.....He is on there though.

Oh and LOLAllardyce and LOLMcLaren
 
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Wasn't there rumours a few weeks back about Arry actually replacing AVB? He could potentially have the pick of 3 jobs come the close season
 
Oh dear. Totally unfair on him, he had no time to build and it was obvious his plans would be long term, though I think he went about a lot of things the wrong way, especially his transfers which seemed to consist of signing or wanting to sign every Porto/Benfica player going. He should have stayed in Portugal for another couple of seasons and built up a proper reputation. And the whole "you must celebrate goals with me" was just pure cringe.

In other news in my FM game he left Chelsea and Mourinho took over. :p
 
guyfawkes5 said:
To be fair I don't think he ever actually said that himself, I think it was just 'reported' by a 'member of the Chelsea staff' or something to that effect.
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If that's the case then I'm happy to be wrong. I didn't read much about it beforehand, I just vaguely remember hearing something about Villas Boas telling the players that if they scored they had to come to the bench and celebrate the goal with him. Laughable if true.

I still think that he should have stayed with Porto for at least one more season, his transfer plans seemed to consist of buying the talent from that team/league, he could have just stayed there and carried on managing those players. Sure it's not the Premier League, but they would have had Champions League football and he could have tried to really make a name for himself in the elite competition. He chose the wrong time to leave in my opinion.

It'll be interesting to see who comes in, in the summer.
 
I think he should've chosen his 'break-out' move more carefully too, namely getting more experience and preferably afterwards choosing a club without an atmosphere like Chelsea's. His youth is also an advantage though, we certainly haven't heard the last of him.
 
guyfawkes5 said:
I think he should've chosen his 'break-out' move more carefully too, namely getting more experience and preferably afterwards choosing a club without an atmosphere like Chelsea's. His youth is also an advantage though, we certainly haven't heard the last of him.
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Yep that's virtually the same opinion that I hold, he should have given himself much more time to choose his move away from that league. Though I imagine he didn't know if an offer such as managing Chelsea would crop up anytime soon.

If we look at the other big clubs Fergie still has a good few years left at Utd, the board would never get rid of Wenger and I doubt he'd step down anytime soon, City are happy with how things are going under Mancini. The top two in Spain seems fairly content with their managers, though we know Mourinho doesn't like to stay in one place particularly long. There aren't many options and maybe he felt like he had to take it, as if it was a now or never decision.

I hope that Chelsea won't have tarnished his reputation too much, as you say he's still very young and while his record at Chelsea hasn't been particularly amazing it wasn't his team when he arrived and he didn't get given the chance to assemble his own, they should have kept him, let him clear out in the summer and start rebuilding a team that he actually wanted. Definitely wasn't given enough of a chance.
 
guyfawkes5 said:
To be fair I don't think he ever actually said that himself, I think it was just 'reported' by a 'member of the Chelsea staff' or something to that effect.
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Yup, its only a story, but not too long after that they all did a cringeworthy run over to AVB and all group hug, a couple players looked happy, a couple looked very "fake smile-ish" and a few looked downright embarrassed........ which kind of suggests it was true, then didn't happen again.
 
The thing is that 20mill to Roman is like a grand to the average OCUK member, so the shock at the payoffs are kind of pointless. AVB was destroyed by lampard, terry etc and it might take him time to recover emotionally.

As for the sacking, it should have been done in Jan. The guy wasn't up to the job. The players could have run the team in a better manner. Di matteo is useless so i guess next season will be a simple case of spend like mad just to get top 4. In danger of going the way of liverpool now because of this debacle. (on a sidenote we could go on a decent run and get top 4 because arsenal implode again).
 
As someone mentioned, AVB to Chelsea was too soon for various reasons.

1 - He had 1 years proven record, yes he won the UEFA Cup or whatever its called... but is that really enough to warrant such an appointment? For him personally he would have been better off having another year maybe 2 at Porto, rack up the domestic honours and have a crack at the Champions League.

2 - Chelsea are in transition, but maybe not a firesale transition that some may call for.. ie clear out the vets in a job lot. Chelsea had/have a lot going for them, look at Inter they won it all under Mourinho with their old guard... sometimes you can still get the best out of a bunch that has been together for a long time, there is a cut off point.. but its a balancing act. United are a good example, look at how they have had to rebuild, but still Rio, Giggs, Scholes all have a part to play and they have done that with older players through the years. Chelsea didnt need to phase out Lamps totally, OK he is not the old Lamps but he is still a productive Lamps.

idk, dont really care either tbh as im not a Chelsea fan but they need someone to nurse what they have and introduce players into that, rather than push out the old whilst shoving the new in their face.
 
guyfawkes5 said:
I think he should've chosen his 'break-out' move more carefully too, namely getting more experience and preferably afterwards choosing a club without an atmosphere like Chelsea's. His youth is also an advantage though, we certainly haven't heard the last of him.
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He's loaded now and his career will recover, hard to say no to Chelsea when they came calling even if it was far too soon.
 
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