Babyshambles

:confused: < at most of this thread for many reasons, i'll elaborate

1. i'm agreeing with gilly in a musical thread
2. see #1
3. see above
4. pete doherty.. i mean come on!!!
 
dominatrix1 said:
and lyrically there is no one better at writing
songs

OMG you have made my night, I am literally crying tears of laughter, HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, OH MY GOD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
 
dominatrix1 said:
Whats everyones view on pete and shambles.
Shambles suck ass. The only thing that sucks more is Pete.

dominatrix1 said:
i went round his house at NY and played me songs in his bedroom it was wicked
Congratulations. You are now 1/5 scumbag!


dominatrix1 said:
he hugged me at rhythm factory before xmas
Make that 3/5ths scumbag.
Also id burned everything you touched that night.

dominatrix1 said:
i hate it how everyone has this picture of the man he actually looks really healthy although admitidally he has a drug problem but doesnt stop him making good music
He looks very very unhealthy and what stops him from making good music is lack of a ******* brain.

dominatrix1 said:
and lyrically there is no one better at writing songs
I swear to god that Zippy, the puppet, could write better songs. Im not even talking about the dude behind Zippy. Im talking about the inanimate pice of cloth puppet.
 
Well I think he's a genius. I love most of his songs and his lyrics are mostly excellent.
He wrote the music for a generation and so what if he's taken drugs.

Oh bugger, I'm getting him mixed up with Pete Townshend - who the **** is Pete Doherty?
Absolutely no-one.
 
:D


I saw them in early 2005, and to my suprise, he actually showed up!

But he was off his face sadly. Mumbled through the set, but he did play Albion (the old, bootleg lullaby version) which was a rather nice suprise.

But by good he's a scrote. (can I say that around here?) Lyrics are average, music is muddled and lacking in hooks. What is the point of having that kind of ecclectic music if there's no hooks? (See: Pavement for a band who do ecclectic bette than anyone, and have hooks throughout)


Completely overrated.
 
I really like the libertines and I like babyshambles too; some of the songs are amazing. Most people just see the Pete thats in the tabloids and say 'oh what a nob', if you actually took time to listen to the music you would find out why the man was very successful poet in his jounger years and why so many people rated the libertines so highly.
 
I couldn't care less if the guy in "on drugs" to be honest, that's not the reason I or anyone else should have for disliking his attempts at producing music.

Skag is way below the other substances musicians tend to abuse, but if you look back at some of the greats in music over the last 30 or so years then there's a running trend: Elvis, Sabbath, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Zeppelin, The Sex Pistols, Clapton, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, many others I'm sure I've not mentioned. In many cases I think the consumption of hard drugs puts a slant on music that cannot be gained by eating apples and drinking water. Look at the Chilis, since they've grown up and kicked the skag habit, their music sucks. Granted, they'll retain their teeth and live longer, but I'd rather they threw in the towel now than release another woeful effort like By The Way.
 
What he said.

I've loved the libs since they started, but babyshambles are just a cheap copy of them. The libs had an exciting new sound, while babyshambles ENTIRE album is made up of the songs that werent good enough to make it into the libertines' second album. That isn't speculation, that's fact - google 'Babyshambles Sessions', they were the name of the early studio dabblings leading up to the libs' second.

Once Pete left the libs, he used a ton of these sub par songs for his own band. Its not even like the libs' second album was even that good, so none of the shambles session songs were all that anyway.
 
I enjoyed the babyshambles album. Are you telling me 'Albion' wasn't good enough to make it on the Libertines album? I think it's up there with 'Music when the Lights go out. I saw them live in Cardiff a few months back and they were good...once the sound engineer got his arse into gear.
 
I love albion too mate. I'm not a fan of the album version, imo he's made it a much worse song than the bootleg.


God knows why its not on the libs' album, maybe it was one they made very late or something.
 
A lot of the songs on 'Down in Albion'(A Rebours, stix and stones, killamangiro and albion to name a few) have been around for a long time in various libertines sessions. I saw babyshambles last year in aberdeen and they were all with it. It was a good two hour set with two encores.
I like babyshambles but they will never be as good as the libertines were.
I have a few live videos of dirty pretty thing live and a few recording. They sound better so far.
 
I like babyshambles and the libertines (seen them live- was a great night). As for pete's personal problems??? It doesn't bother me, as almost every artist/band i listen to, abuse or have abused drugs (think beatles, hendrix, Stones, nirvana, led zep, dylan etc etc).
 
Gilly said:
None of them are exactly respectable, but I'd rather be a coke fiend or a stoner than a skaghead. Heroin is by far the most destructive of the drugs normally associated with rock stars, it's more rampantly addictive too and will certainly do your body and state of mind more harm than the other stuff on offer.
 
Big Chris said:
None of them are exactly respectable, but I'd rather be a coke fiend or a stoner than a skaghead. Heroin is by far the most destructive of the drugs normally associated with rock stars, it's more rampantly addictive too and will certainly do your body and state of mind more harm than the other stuff on offer.

Gilly will be confused as I am right now after reading that :p Basically you said, there are drugs far worse than "skag", and now you've just said "skag" is the worst drug you can do :p :confused: :confused:

Edit:

Skag is way below the other substances musicians tend to abuse

:confused:
 
I meant way below as in worse, ie. you can't go much lower than taking skag, losing your teeth then robbing your gran for more skag money.

I can edit the original post if it's causing this much confusion?
 
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