Bahrain Grand Prix 2012, Sakhir - Race 4/20
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Well, gosh, we could, like, inform ourselves from a variety of credible and reliable sources. You know that way we generally find out what is going on outside the little bubble we live our lives in.
So how many are protesting then and what are they going to do then?
This thread will be more interesting than the race
Last year 100,000+ people marched on the capital and called for improved human rights and an open political process. A united front behind a genuine cause which was met with resistance and then violence.
This was not acceptable. F1 did not go. Rightly so.
This year, all we have so far are a few shots of people burning stuff or causing riots. There is no mass march, there is no united front, there is not call for discussion. Theres just isolated small scale violence.
If the media are trying to portray the image of a country united in protest against its leaders, they are doing a bad job.
If F1 doesn't want to go, then don't go. But be honest about it and say its because it will make you look bad. Don't try and feed us BS about giving a dam about the human rights issues.
This was not acceptable. F1 did not go. Rightly so.
This year, all we have so far are a few shots of people burning stuff or causing riots. There is no mass march, there is no united front, there is not call for discussion. Theres just isolated small scale violence.
If the media are trying to portray the image of a country united in protest against its leaders, they are doing a bad job.
If F1 doesn't want to go, then don't go. But be honest about it and say its because it will make you look bad. Don't try and feed us BS about giving a dam about the human rights issues.
Caporegime
I couldn't care less about 3 people burning down a sign; I do care about the Bahrani government brutally suppressing peaceful protests and continuing systematic efforts to keep those involved, or suspected of being involved, down in the months that have followed. By going to Bahrain, F1 is essentially providing the Bahrani regime with a massive PR coup and endorsing its actions.
The same thing happens in other countries we have a race in, whats different?
They won't attack the track, there's pro-democracy protesters planned for all this week with it probably having the biggest turn out on race day. The people of Charain still want the same as this time last year. Free elections and their own right to self determination along with schools and hospitals and not F1. I can completely sympathize with that, it's a rich Arab nation that should be able to provide better for its populace. China is a different economic comparison, please tell me how it's the same.
China has learnt since Tienanmen square that you don't resolve problems like that with force, it looks bad on your country and your government. What happened in Bahrain last year was the ruling Royal family panicking and trying to keep hold of the country and 35 odd people died. And then there was more hoo-harr when they then prosecuted the people who treated the injured in military court, again showing the world their true intent.
China is lead by a single party that's opening its self up to the world but is trying to keep its identity and not turn into a western multi-party political system. For all the ill's China has it's also made massive social and economic strides. We can say it's not good enough but it's simply a different way of running things.
Nobody is saying that didn't happen. There is just limited evidence to say that it is still happening.
Should the Olympics be called off in London because in recent years there have been the riots and also the protests in parliament square and places that turned nasty with police brutality?
Should the Olympics be called off in London because in recent years there have been the riots and also the protests in parliament square and places that turned nasty with police brutality?
Assuming that the 1 week break and no return home means minimal if any updates to a lot of teams, its a fairly safe bet.
Lol, its the middle of the desert. Average April temps are 30C. Makes it interesting for us
Soldato
I'll have £5 on Lewis for the win, and £50 on the race being disrupted by track invasion.
SkyBet do the occasional random bet. They had something like 20/1 on the race being interrupted by an animal on the track in India last year. I think betting on track disruptions here might be seen as being in bad taste though.
Soldato
Surely no worse taste than the FIA insisting on holding a Grand Prix in a country in the midst of revolution, whilst pretending the sport isn't political.
Soldato
You're heard of the Arab Spring, right? Remember the reason why there was no GP last year?
Just because it's not daily news anymore doesn't mean it's stopped.
Just because it's not daily news anymore doesn't mean it's stopped.
I thought the whole problem was that the country wasn't in revolution?
A few yoofs burning down a sign does not a political revolution make.
Worse stuff than that goes on in most of England's major cities every day.
Yeah I heard of it last year, 200 youths fighting police is not on the same scale though is it?
While I realise its only over one lap - Im wondering if the much hotter expected temps will cause Merc's to lose a bit of their advantage in quali