Poll: Bahrain Grand Prix 2020, Sakhir - Race 15/17

[Entai]

It's clear from the replays that, as a result of the angle of impact, the nose dug into the barrier and this ripped the front and safety cell off the car.

As Brundle intimated earlier when they were replacing the barrier with concrete blocks, these are almost better as, whilst they don't absorb any impact, they also can't be easily penetrated.

I wouldn't be surprised if changes come from this requiring all 'naked' barriers to be covered with tyres or Tec-Pro or such like.

As I posted earlier.

Hitting a concrete barrier head on, or even at a heavy angle will bounce off yes, but will result in an instantaneous massive deceleration, as the concrete will not move, that will be a huge magnitude more dangerous for the driver, compared to a far more gradual deceleration when impacting Armco barrier that is specifically designed to move and bend and thus absorb all the energy of the deceleration so the driver sees far less.

From all the work I've been involved in with crash barrier design and testing, I am far far happier having seen this crash being into Armco, than having been into concrete.

We would, in no way, be in such a thankful state currently, had he crashed like that into concrete.

Also it will be prohibitively expensive to cover all track barriers with tyres or Tec-pro or anything similar, think somewhere around 5 to 7 miles of barrier to cover, around average 2 to 3 mile length circuit.

 

[el_dazza]

Prediction: this is going to be dull as hell.

(Praying I look very stupid in 90 mins time when all hell has broken loose..)

Went and ******* said it didn't I..

 

[chrismscotland]

Vettel: Should have crashed; maybe it was the better option!

He really is fed up at Ferrari isn't he!

 

[Stu999]

Went and ******* said it didn't I..

 

[Flibster]

Verstappen radio - Jesus. Quite an eventful race so far.

 

[vanpeebles]

Vettels should pack in with big John.

 

[Mr Jack]

And not his fault again...

Racing incident, I think.

Not sure on Vettel that looked fair from his onboard... after the overhead that was 100% fine.

 

[Flibster]

Sainz radio - I was focussed on the Stroll car. **** hell , what a race. Thank god he's ok.

 

[CSMonkeh]

That’s extra-ordinary!!
Indeed Grosjean surely won’t be medically cleared to race even if he wanted to, which if he had any sense he won’t

I’ve not seen pictures of the Halo, only seen the replay.

Above all, thank heaven he’s OK

 

[Psycho Ned]

Is Kvyats car bulletproof? Had 2 pretty big shunts without damage so far hasn't he?!

 

[Flibster]

Gasly pit radio - Ok Pierre. We are revising what we can do. We are revising everything. Make sure you make these tyres last as long as you can. Please confirm. Two cars behind you are on option, they are not going to go very far. So if you lose a couple of positions, keep your head down.

 

[Merlin5]

Further to Stroll's bad luck, he qualified in 13th place.

 

[chrismscotland]

That’s extra-ordinary!!
Indeed Grosjean surely won’t be medically cleared to race even if he wanted to, which if he had any sense he won’t

I’ve not seen pictures of the Halo, only seen the replay.

Above all, thank heaven he’s OK

Wonder if we'll see another appearance for Hulkenburg next weekend; although Deletraz and Fittipaldi are their official reserve drivers

 

[Flibster]

So lap 9...and a total of 1/3 of a lap spent racing?

 

[Lakeland]

That’s extra-ordinary!!
Indeed Grosjean surely won’t be medically cleared to race even if he wanted to, which if he had any sense he won’t

I’ve not seen pictures of the Halo, only seen the replay.

Above all, thank heaven he’s OK

It was intact, but you could see where it had impacted the barrier. It undoubtedly either saved his life or prevented a broken neck/back.

I can't believe how poor the first fire marshal was, he must have emptied the first half of the bottle in to fresh air!

 

[Flibster]

Wonder if we'll see another appearance for Hulkenburg next weekend; although Deletraz and Fittipaldi are their official reserve drivers

Or Schumacher or Mazepin prepping for 2021.

Magnussen pit radio - Mode push, mode push. And reset funk.

 

[muon]

It was intact, but you could see where it had impacted the barrier. It undoubtedly either saved his life or prevented a broken neck/back.

I can't believe how poor the first fire marshal was, he must have emptied the first half of the bottle in to fresh air!

Probably didnt know what to do or what to put out.

The second one was clearly directed where to point the fire extinguisher by the guy from the medical car to help Grosjean.

 

[Flibster]

WOOHOO! Full lap of racing!

Leclerc and Stroll under investigation - causing a collision.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Can't they have a better solution these days than a steward in a firefighters coat and a little fire extinguisher?

I understand you can't have dozens of experienced fire fighters on each corner but that doesn't mean they can't do something. Drones with little fire suppressant tanks for example - if they kept them in the air rotating round the circuit they could be on site in seconds - and seconds later more on site (swarm like). If they put a flame detector in the drone they could be close to or entirely automatic.

We don't have commercially available automatic firefighting drones - that's sci-fi (although as with nearly all sci-fi, it will come true, but not for a while yet).

 

[Flibster]

Magnussen pit radio - Ok Kevin, we need more lift and coast than that. We're very hot.

Good job from Sainz there.