Yes it does, there was no rational reason to refuse the order. they self-admitted they refused the order due to their homophobic beliefs.
I would have thought that actual homophobia, not the sensationalist version, would require that they be scared of gay people.
Not disagreeing with a lifestyle. I don't think it's right that they do, but that's their choice, however.
The rational reasoning though, is that it goes against their religious views. There isn't anything irrational about that. Disliking something isn't the same as it not being rational, and just because you don't believe in religion, doesn't mean the belief in religion is irrational.
Then they should work in such a customer facing job, they had an easy choice. Most o us have to do things against our beliefs and we have zero choice on the matter. I don't like it when my tax money is spent on wars or pointlessly long prison sentences, it goes against my beliefs, but I have no right not to pay taxes unlike the bakers who had the freedom to change careers. The bakers had their freedom to hold what ever belief they want, but that belief cannot discriminate against others when running a business.
Again, they shouldn't be in a public facing job if they have such issues.
They shouldn't, but they are. We don't live in an ideal world, and these are the sort of things that crop up in a world that is less than ideal.
This just sounds like a "I get forced to do stuff I don't want to do that are against my beliefs, so they should too!"
The laws aren't supposed to stop people believing in what they want to, just prevent them affecting others.
IF someone is robbed on the street do you think they should just get on with their lives or do you think it should be reported to the authorities so the criminals can face justice? The bakers broke the law and must face the consequences for that.
Why are you relating this situation, to someone being robbed on the street? You're just trivialising it by going down that avenue now, and it's starting to look like you just like moaning about people who have religious beliefs.
And it never has been and never well for precisely these reasons!
Next time you are going through airport security shout out that you have a bomb in your bag and unless you get 10million pound you will blow everyone up. See how far your freedom of speech gets you!
I feel like you're starting to misunderstand me on purpose now, as this isn't a reply to anything I said.
The bakers aren't being discriminated against, they can have their beliefs and no one has told them they have to personally accept homosexuals. The actually business has been forced to provide equal service to all customers. The bakers can believe in what ever homophobic sky pixy they can imagine, it is their freedom to do that, what they can't do it operate their business in such a way that those beliefs discriminate.
People are free to discriminate, companies are not.
You've just undermined yourself now with the "Sky Pixie" BS. You know full well that religious people don't believe in a pixie that lives in the sky, you do it to be derogatory.
Again, I also think you're misunderstanding me on purpose.
However, the point you're seemingly missing is that why would anyone want a company to do work for them, that the company didn't actually want to do?
I know I wouldn't, and I can't see why anyone else would really.
