Barbie (2023)

ebilcake · 24 Jul 2023 at 14:11

An unintentially based movie. Its basically a advert for patriarchy.

Efour · 24 Jul 2023 at 19:51

Lol such a take. Fascinating.

I almost wanna rewatch it.

DeeJay-Mo · 25 Jul 2023 at 13:30

Genius bit of marketing it has to be said. Pretending the film is for young girls in order to pull in the parents. Seems rare to witness a film that is surely destined to be a cult classic having such a strong opening week. Near the surface it seems like a cautionary tale about the fall of feminism, but dig a little deeper, and perhaps it's really a provocative temperature check, designed intended to stimulate discourse, rather than making a statement. I for one will be following the online chatter closely. Certainly one of the more interesting releases of recent times.

VincentHanna · 25 Jul 2023 at 23:11

Saw it with my wife earlier and 8/10 from me. @Nitefly summed it up perfectly so there's little I can add to that.

All these men online saying Margo Robbie looks plain/ugly without makeup are mental. When she first appears on screen (which is a great homage to 2001) she looks stunning in that swimsuit. I couldn't think who else could play what we think of as Barbie in 2023 to be honest.

Most of the jokes landed, though weirdly I didn't think Will Ferrell and co were that funny. Michael Cera and Ryan Gosling were great though.

Biggest issue wasn't related to the movie but the cinema.The air-con was barely working (small screen, completely full, very hot). I literally had sweat dripping down my back

Participant · 26 Jul 2023 at 07:33

VincentHanna said:
All these men online saying Margo Robbie looks plain/ugly without makeup are mental.

Not that I agree, but just to point out that women are saying it too.

And fyi the term "mental" isn't considered P.C. these days, which as OcUK's head of virtue signalling may or may not concern you.

VincentHanna · 26 Jul 2023 at 08:38

Participant said:
Not that I agree, but just to point out that women are saying it too.

And fyi the term "mental" isn't considered P.C. these days, which as OcUK's head of virtue signalling may or may not concern you.

Is it wrong to jokily call someone 'mental'?

Asda has apologised for selling a "mental patient fancy dress costume" but is the term mental - regularly used in a jokey fashion - offensive?

www.bbc.co.uk

Lightnix · 26 Jul 2023 at 11:09

Seen this, it was great. Good sense of humour, excellent use of surrealism. I think the feminist points were generally really well made. It was fun to learn about the world through the eyes of a pair of toys.

I also think it's hilarious (in a laughing at not laughing with way, to be clear) that Ben Shapiro thought he was making a great political point by playing with a doll in exactly the same way as depicted by a little girl in the same film he was criticising. Congrats on creating your weird Barbie, Ben.

krooton · 26 Jul 2023 at 12:02

Lightnix said:
Seen this, it was great. Good sense of humour, excellent use of surrealism. I think the feminist points were generally really well made. It was fun to learn about the world through the eyes of a pair of toys.

I also think it's hilarious (in a laughing at not laughing with way, to be clear) that Ben Shapiro thought he was making a great political point by playing with a doll in exactly the same way as depicted by a little girl in the same film he was criticising. Congrats on creating your weird Barbie, Ben.

He is hilarious, "Waaaah, feminist movie harping on about fragile masculinity, waaah! I'll show them! I'll be the poster-boy for fragile masculinity by burning dolls!"

Darujhistan · 26 Jul 2023 at 13:05

DeeJay-Mo said:
Genius bit of marketing it has to be said. Pretending the film is for young girls in order to pull in the parents. Seems rare to witness a film that is surely destined to be a cult classic having such a strong opening week. Near the surface it seems like a cautionary tale about the fall of feminism, but dig a little deeper, and perhaps it's really a provocative temperature check, designed intended to stimulate discourse, rather than making a statement. I for one will be following the online chatter closely. Certainly one of the more interesting releases of recent times.

Hmmm, huge budget, big studio, massive box office sales are the antithesis of what makes a cult classic, they're generaly smaller productions, on small budgets which generally do poorly at the BO, or just don't have any real impact first time round at the cinema.

I don't think cult films generally emerge from long established massive IP's either.

the shadow · 26 Jul 2023 at 14:04

Barbie brawl! Grandmother shoves woman dressed in pink during movie

The victim, named in Brazilian media as Melissa Caroline, reportedly took to social media to explain that she was attacked after complaining that she was unhappy about a child's behaviour during the film.

www.dailymail.co.uk

VincentHanna · 26 Jul 2023 at 14:07

Having watched it, my friend asked me if it would be suitable for his 4 year old daughter, and I said I doubt it, as it would be too complex.

But am I wrong? Is this kid friendly? I'd probably say 7-8 onwards to actually begin to understand/appreciate it?

Nitefly · 26 Jul 2023 at 14:30

VincentHanna said:
Having watched it, my friend asked me if it would be suitable for his 4 year old daughter, and I said I doubt it, as it would be too complex.

But am I wrong? Is this kid friendly? I'd probably say 7-8 onwards to actually begin to understand/appreciate it?

I’d say slightly older - 10 years old, really.

I mean, it’s about a person being disturbed by own their thoughts about death and anxiety, which is subject matter probably beyond the reach of young children. It might upset very young children.

I’m generalising and stereotyping but it’s probably most relatable to people that have a bit of adult life experience under their belts (25+ years old). I’m sure there are many teenagers who have gone through some horrendous life drama that makes my own life look like a comfy picnic, but you get what I mean.

VincentHanna · 26 Jul 2023 at 14:40

Nitefly said:
I’d say slightly older - 10 years old, really.

I mean, it’s about a person being disturbed by own their thoughts about death and anxiety, which is subject matter probably beyond the reach of young children. It might upset very young children.

I’m generalising and stereotyping but it’s probably most relatable to people that have a bit of adult life experience under their belts (25+ years old). I’m sure there are many teenagers who have gone through some horrendous life drama that makes my own life look like a comfy picnic, but you get what I mean.

I watched Robocop on video when I was 7, so it's hard for me to be a judge of what is/isn't suitable :cry:

Nitefly · 26 Jul 2023 at 16:16

VincentHanna said:
I watched Robocop on video when I was 7, so it's hard for me to be a judge of what is/isn't suitable

Hah - in fairness every child is different and some might be fine, others not. I know some 10 year olds that screamed at Jurassic Park, which I saw earlier than that and was fine.

Just relay the content and let them make up their own mind.

… Robocop is disturbing even as an adult :eek:

jcr · 26 Jul 2023 at 18:49

VincentHanna said:
Is it wrong to jokily call someone 'mental'?

Asda has apologised for selling a "mental patient fancy dress costume" but is the term mental - regularly used in a jokey fashion - offensive?

www.bbc.co.uk

do you genuinely get your life guidance from the BBC?

VincentHanna · 26 Jul 2023 at 18:56

jcr said:
do you genuinely get your life guidance from the BBC?

Nah, I'll take it from the people with disabilities (mental and otherwise) that they quoted.

gingergundog · 26 Jul 2023 at 19:14

Not sure if we are allowed to say mental mental chicken oriental anymore...

C Kent · 26 Jul 2023 at 19:40

VincentHanna said:
Nah, I'll take it from the people with disabilities (mental and otherwise) that they quoted.

That article is a decade old, given how bat **** crazy folks have become you'll need something more up to date before you get a pass to use the word mental I'm afraid Vinny

Bluecube · 26 Jul 2023 at 22:27

Superb film! Oppenheimer will win all the Oscars but Barbie is sitting next to it as best best film this year. It’s clever, funny and has a great cast. I’ll watch it again

Pawnless Endgame · 27 Jul 2023 at 18:45

It will be hard to beat Mario, but I'm hearing in the press that Barbie will do even better.