Baroness Thatcher has died.

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regulus said:
This. But take into account that it's 'cool' to hate Maggie as it is to hate Blair. It's not as if your average dummy knows anything beyond what's sold to them by moronic media. Look at any Facebook conversation for new depths in stupidity.

This country was on hard times before she came to power. It was left much stronger and more competitive when she left. She made tough decisions with zero regard for political ass-covering. I admire that.
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I don't think it's 'cool' to hate either, I think that people are raised and through the socialisation they adopt the views around them, which for a lot of younger people will be one way or the other on something like Thatcher.

It's an emotive subject and devisive, I think someone now could look at what she did and still fall either way about her coming from an unbiased point of view.
 
Jason2 said:
It's just the stupid working class with the derogatory comments. Maybe if they sat down and learned at school instead of ****ing about, they wouldn't be working class? Just a thought.
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There are lots of educated and unedcated people that agree and disagree with what she did.

SWEEPING GENERALISATIONS.
 
Complete apathy, rest in peace nonetheless.

Did we run out of beer at the weekend? People seem rather cranky today.
 
Can't really argue with posts like that. I was never a fan of Mrs Thatcher, I considered her a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde character. I would much rather have her fighting our corner in Europe and around the world than the limp wristed fops we have these days. I mean, can you imagine today's government sending a full on task force thousands of miles to rescue the Falklands? Would we even be able to do it now? She was quite possibly instrumental in bringing out the end of the Cold War.

On the other hand, her domestic policies left a lot to be desired. Poll tax is the obvious example, she pretty much wiped out the Tories north of the border in one go, there's us still no signs of them ever recovering. Also she seemed of the opinion that no coal industry at all was preferably to one run by militant unions. I think both she AND Scargill were equally to blame for wiping out an entire industry. Sheer intransigence on both sides.

She will be missed for all the right reasons (and probably some of the wrong ones too).
 
Robbo said:
Another thing I find distasteful is that all the Liverpool fans (well, many of them) have taken to Twitter to mock her death when they're the first people to start wetting themselves when someone mentions the Hillsborough disaster in anything other than a positive light. :confused:
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As distastful as it is (any one mocking the dead, that's poor). She didn't help her self with her relations in Liverpool around how she handled the Hillsborough tradegy.

Hillsborough is still a sore spot and justice still hasn't prevailed after so many years of hurt. It wasn't just about HIllsborough though for Liverpool, a lot of what Thatcher did, affected Liverpool and it's industries. She's not popular up there and it's easy to see why.
 
Brookert said:
The way I see it, it's mainly the industrial towns who hate her, simply because she wasn't prepared to plough money into an unprofitable industries. People slate her for the sinking of the belgrano too, but war is war.
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I think that's a massive thing - She did ruin lively hoods and peoples ability to look after them selves and their family, but was there much choice? Not really.

K1LLSW1TCH said:
I know it's easy to get on the moral high ground about stuff like this but some of the comments in this thread genuinely are disgusting.
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The mods are working as hard as they can to clean up the thread - which is why you see so many deleted posts.
 
I'm too young to have lived during her premiership, but the divide in opinions she still evokes is quite amazing.

Jason2 said:
It's just the stupid working class with the derogatory comments. Maybe if they sat down and learned at school instead of ****ing about, they wouldn't be working class? Just a thought.
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You really are about the most ignorant poster I've ever seen on these forums and the irony of your statement is astonishing. I really hope you are deliberately trolling.
 
Yes I went on protests as a student against her as education secretary on the milk thing

If you lived in the seventies and suffered the last throes of the Callaghan labour government you would realise what an absolute mess she had to deal with.

No she did not cut public spending during her terms in office.

Compared to Blair she was honest with the electorate and you cannot say that you did not know what you would get voting for Maggie.

Yes a few mistakes, but on the whole we have had an awful lot worse since and before. We could have had Michael Foot.

She was PM for eleven years, and the UK did fairly well during that time.
 
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Robbo said:
Look at all the deleted posts, it's a shame to think OCUK members aren't mature enough to handle something like this. Alarming, really.
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I wonder about how many of them were grown up when she was in power. Evidently some might never mature. It's a sad day to see people taking pleasure in her death.
 
Robbo said:
Look at all the deleted posts, it's a shame to think OCUK members aren't mature enough to handle something like this. Alarming, really.
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Don't be surprised when stupid people come out with stupid comments :)

The internet is just one big shouting contest. Whoever comes out with the most provocative comment (apparently) wins (no matter how valid the opinion is).

If people were more educated then their responses would be different.

There are 2 sides to every coin. You don't have to agree with what she did, just understand why she did them.
 
Cosimo said:
I wonder about how many of them were grown up when she was in power. Evidently some might never mature. It's a sad day to see people taking pleasure in her death.
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I wasn't even born when Stalin was in power.

Just sayin'.
 
Red Porsche said:
Don't be surprised when stupid people come out with stupid comments :)

The internet is just one big shouting contest. Whoever comes out with the most provocative comment (apparently) wins (no matter how valid the opinion is).

If people were more educated then their responses would be different.

There are 2 sides to every coin. You don't have to agree with what she did, just understand why she did them.
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Best post I've read this year.
 
Love her or hate her, she was the only person at the time who had the balls to take Britain out of from and aging and decaying industrial age run by even older trade unionist, to the "free for all" service industry we know today and I think we are better off because of what she believed in, even though at the time, it made no sense (poll tax being the exception).

Personally, I have her to thank for my career in IT. Her YTS gave me the opportunity to work in IT straight from school, providing full training from IBM, which otherwise I wouldn't had the chance. By the time friends of mine were leaving Uni, I was already a senior member of a Small IT company based in Herts.

Thanks Maggie and RIP

Maccy said:
Jason2, if you continue to spout rubbish, you're off on holiday.
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Was going to say just that.

wingman said:
How did Major compare, a question targeted at but not limited to those who lived as an adult through the times?
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He didn't but he was her blue eyed boy and someone that could continue her principles when everyone else at he time was falling around her..
 
Children who grew up in the 80s are a lot more hard working and have better manners than those who grew up in the 90s

Times are changing and its governments who make that change

She was a hard woman, but sometimes you need to rule with an iron fist
 
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