Baroness Thatcher has died.

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Maggie is still a hero in my eyes.

Yes, I was a Paratrooper who fought in the Falklands. She had more balls than most men, who would have gave in to the Argies.


She had her faults as we all do, but she loved this country and fought for it.
 
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She was a hundred times the prime minister Tony Blair was.

Why-o-why is it always the same pattern - labour train wreck. Get someone else to sort it out & take the blame. Rinse & repeat. Exactly the same is happening now.
 
Some of the veiws expressed in this thread are down right disgusting, some people need to seriously have a quiet word with themselves if they think that sort of behaviour is acceptable.



RIP

she was a strong, decisive, ballsy politician, with a damn sight more integrity than anything that has come since.
i have a lot of respect for her, i might not of been old enough to understand when she was PM, however looking back i may not have agreed with all of her policies, but our current bunch of damp spineless politicians can learn a hell of a lot of her.

A fine lady and a national icon.
 
As per the gist of my previous post, criticism should be welcomed at this point in a vigorous public debate that WILL have an effect on the deceased' lasting public memory. However as Robbo and others have said. Let's keep things in perspective. Hitler she was not.

What's your sig. Edinho?


Also - Blair would still be in power today if it wasn't for Iraq and Gordon Brown, everyone knows it.
 
Grew up listening to this, I guess he can stop singing it now.


I saw a newspaper picture from the political campaign
A woman was kissing a child, who was obviously in pain
She spills with compassion, as that young childs
Face in her hands she grips
Can you imagine all that greed and avarice
Coming down on that childs lips

...


Well I hope I don't die too soon
I pray the lord my soul to save
Oh I'll be a good boy, Im trying so hard to behave
Because there's one thing I know, I'd like to live
Long enough to savour
That's when they finally put you in the ground
I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down

 
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She was a hundred times the prime minister Tony Blair was.

Why-o-why is it always the same pattern - labour train wreck. Get someone else to sort it out & take the blame. Rinse & repeat. Exactly the same is happening now.

Because Labour are ****? and most people who dont understand Government and politics are not wise, thinking that they are doing a good job, when in fact they are screwing us in to the ground, however people blame it on the next Government who have to try and fix what's been broken, automatically putting the blame on them.
 
Really, every person?

I'll remind you of that when Mick Philpott is killed in prison and people posting how he deserved it.

Yes. It can be the tiniest little bit, like not spitting on their grave or shouting abuse at their families. It'd be nice if everyone here was so damn perfect, sadly nobody is although I suspect many think they are in their own self-righteous way. I know I'm not, but I know where the line should be drawn with regards death, whether deserving or not.

You might not respect that person while they were alive but at least people should have some decorum when they die.

It's so easy to be an internet activist, yet see it in the street most wouldn't say a word.
 
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As per the gist of my previous post, criticism should be welcomed at this point in a vigorous public debate that WILL have an effect on the deceased' lasting public memory. However as Robbo and others have said. Let's keep things in perspective. Hitler she was not.

What's your sig. Edinho?


Also - Blair would still be in power today if it wasn't for Iraq and Gordon Brown, everyone knows it.

To use northern people she was hitler! But your in London so she's like the queen
 
I quite enjoy the Labour bashing, as in, if you're not a Tory you're a Labour. I always enjoy the assumption people make, the same one as that clearly the only alternative is Labour and they obviously can't do it properly.
 
Why does someone of whom a great deal of people loathed during her life suddenly deserve respect now she has died? :confused:

Why do people have to put in to context their dislike? Surely that will lead to more bickering.

You don't have to like someone to respect the fact they have died. A common phrase is "don't speak ill of the dead".

When you put context to a statement it generally comes across better and provokes discussion which is what a forum is all about isn't it?
 
How very dare you. I have kept the up most of respect for her on this thread - regardless of what my true feelings are toward the former PM.

Do you want adding to the list Number_25? I can edit the original post! ;) :D

I don't think there have been *too* many problems with the thread to be honest, other than Jason2.

Their haven't been, but a lot of that is due to swift moderation.
 
You don't have to like someone to respect the fact they have died. A common phrase is "don't speak ill of the dead".

When you put context to a statement it generally comes across better and provokes discussion which is what a forum is all about isn't it?

Well, no, I don't entirely agree with the top statement. I'm not suddenly going to respect Thatcher because she has died, nor do I see the sense in keeping quiet, it's just exploting the fact that she's died and all the feelings and emotions that are common with that as a way to bash people who didn't like them. I'll remind posters of that phrase though when it's appropriate.

She is a devisive character, surely a list of everyone posting why they disliked her and their own personal history and reasoning of hate would just lead to more and more people arguing over opinions.
 
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No-one was celebrating Amy Winehouse's death. They were joking about it. Joking I don't mind, better to light a candle than curse the darkness and all that, but actively going out of your way to celebrate the death of someone is a bit off tbh.

Well even joking and mocking, seems like it's not allowed in this thread.
 
1. Thatcherism, with lower income taxes, less government interference and standing against dictatorships, became the philosophy in much of the democratic world after she came to power on May 4, 1979.

2. Refusal to compromise with communism helped bring down Soviet Union.

3. Threw the Argentines out of the Falklands after the invasion in 1982.

4. Showed there is no glass ceiling preventing women rising to the top.

5. Before becoming an MP, helped to perfect a way of preserving ice-creams as a chemist at J Lyons & Co.

History ... Maggie's victory in 1979
History ... Maggie's victory in 1979
6. Maiden speech in the Commons in 1960 was in support of her private member’s bill that forced local councils to hold meetings in public.

7. More than 1.5million tenants bought council homes after 1980 right-to-buy law.

8. Supported issues that surprised critics, such as the decriminalisation of homosexuality in 1967.

9. Backed Labour bills to ban hare coursing in 1969 and 1975.

10. In Ted Heath’s 1970-74 government, beat cuts that would have meant people paying to borrow library books.

11. Sell-off of state-run firms made them competitive and cut taxpayers’ huge costs.

12. During her 11 years as PM, gross domestic product – the chief measure of national wealth – rose 23.3 per cent.

13. Within three years of taking power, inflation was at 8.6 per cent from highs of 18 per cent.

14. Stood firm on terrorism, rejecting blackmail from IRA hunger strikers.

15. Signed 1985 Hillsborough Agreement in Northern Ireland that led to the Good Friday peace deal.

16. Only PM to win three terms in the 20th Century.

17. In 1988, long before it was fashionable, made a speech on global warming.

18. Kept the Pound by opposing Chancellor Nigel Lawson’s plans to join the ERM and adopt a single EU currency.

19. Persuaded President George Bush to expel Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1990.

20. Saved Britain from rule by Neil Kinnock, stepping down from a leadership vote on November 22, 1990, to avoid splitting the party. It helped John Major win the 1992 election, keeping Kinnock out.

21. Promoted self-reliance, hitting out at people who expected others to solve their problems in a 1987 interview.

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22. With privatisation, created new shareholders with a stake in the country’s wealth.

23. Is wrongly seen as dividing the country. Topped a poll as Britain’s greatest post-War leader last year, with 34 per cent of the vote.

24. Changed Labour, who dropped plans for nuclear disarmament, scrapped public ownership and stopped kowtowing to the unions.

25. Made Britain competitive in world markets for the first time since the 1930s.

26. The Iranian Embassy siege of 1980 was ended by the SAS on her say-so. Britain then escaped similar terrorism until the rise of Muslim suicide bombers.

27. Saved Hong Kong from a communist makeover in 1997 by negotiating a deal that obliges China to leave the economy unchanged until 2047.

28. Won a rebate from the EU that since 1984 has given us back £3billion a year.

29. Top earners paid 98p in the Pound income tax in 1979. By 1988 Mrs T had it down to 40p.

30. Beat union power, making it possible for The Sun to shine at its new HQ in Wapping, East London, in 1986.
 
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