Baroness Thatcher has died.

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as a Scot, who was living in Scotland at the time of the Poll Tax roll out, I have no problem with Maggie,

she was a wonderful Prime Minister, who made a few mistakes in her 11 year period in this position,

Thanks to her, my Family are better off, through hard work and commitment.

RIP Maggie, and a deserving end at the Ritz.

as for the demonstrations, dancing on her face in newspapers etc? have you no dignity? if not for Maggie but for yourselfs? shame on you.
 
bitslice said:
Yes, let's not protest about anything, let us do what we are told and stop whining.
Do you have any idea what they were protesting about, or did you just think it was about her?
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Janesy B said:
There's plenty to protest about, I am confused why people are protesting about Thatcher.
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This, tbh.

Surely protesting somebody's death means you want them to continue living? :p
 
Kinda interesting how its in her death..ya know...when she wont hear you...these people come out of the woodwork about how awful she was.
 
cu3ed said:
Kinda interesting how its in her death..ya know...when she wont hear you...these people come out of the woodwork about how awful she was.
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yeah I couldn't agree more,

I watch all these hipster kids in thick rimmed glasses on TV, dancing on her face, giggling with bottles of champagne,

seems these kids would flash mob the opening of some cheese and onion crisps, given the chance.

it seems the ones who always have something to say about everything, now have something to say about Thatcher :rolleyes:

tomorrow it will be the price of chinos at Hollister I suppose ;)
 
I like the way a lot of the people partying seem to be too young to have even been born when she was around. Inherited political views seem to be prevalent, rather than forming their own opinions.

It makes me bash my head in frustration when some of my younger friends say "I'd never vote for that party, my parents were XXXX supporters all their lives."
 
cu3ed said:
Kinda interesting how its in her death..ya know...when she wont hear you...these people come out of the woodwork about how awful she was.
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Look at the Savile thread on here, full of people going 'RIP' and how it did a lot for charity. Then later people pointing out he wasn't all good and maybe we shouldn't wish him well.
If we all shut up, Thatcher would go out in a blaze of glory to the sound of cheering Tories. Denouncing the naysayers doesn't change the fact that some people had a rough time because of her.
 
bitslice said:
Look at the Savile thread on here, full of people going 'RIP' and how it did a lot for charity. Then later people pointing out he wasn't all good and maybe we shouldn't wish him well.
If we all shut up, Thatcher would go out in a blaze of glory to the sound of cheering Tories. Denouncing the naysayers doesn't change the fact that some people had a rough time because of her.
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I don't think anyone has a problem with constructive criticism, it seems most people aren't capable of that and just show irrational hatred instead. It seems you can't be objective and if you're not dancing on the streets celebrating her death you suddenly become a Thatcherite.
 
bitslice said:
Look at the Savile thread on here, full of people going 'RIP' and how it did a lot for charity. Then later people pointing out he wasn't all good and maybe we shouldn't wish him well.
If we all shut up, Thatcher would go out in a blaze of glory to the sound of cheering Tories. Denouncing the naysayers doesn't change the fact that some people had a rough time because of her.
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What is it with GD and hopelessly tenuous comparisons?
 
bitslice said:
Look at the Savile thread on here, full of people going 'RIP' and how it did a lot for charity. Then later people pointing out he wasn't all good and maybe we shouldn't wish him well.
If we all shut up, Thatcher would go out in a blaze of glory to the sound of cheering Tories. Denouncing the naysayers doesn't change the fact that some people had a rough time because of her.
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Thats fair enough, but that can be said of anyone thats ever lived.

Wheres the "parties" in the streets dancing on the face of Saville, I have plenty of reasons to hate Thatcher ( Dad had an extremely tough time when she came to power).

I cant hate her though, for the overall picture is she was in the right, she just had the backbone to do what was needed at the time, theirs far "worse" people in the banking sector as far as im concerned.
 
It's emotive because she's not just an ex leader, but symbolic of "Thatcherism" which many people feel strongly about.

It's a little disingenuous to imply it's just a load of people celebrating the death of an old women (when the reality is more complex) - not that I support those who genuinely do celebrate her death.

Free markets, financial discipline, firm control over public expenditure, tax cuts, nationalism, 'Victorian values' (of the Samuel Smiles self-help variety), privatisation and a dash of populism.

It's easy to see why many would not approve of the above.


Narj said:
I like the way a lot of the people partying seem to be too young to have even been born when she was around. Inherited political views seem to be prevalent, rather than forming their own opinions.

It makes me bash my head in frustration when some of my younger friends say "I'd never vote for that party, my parents were XXXX supporters all their lives."
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To be fair, we all feel the impact due to the fact that the Conservatives & New Labour both continued Thatchers neoliberal doctrine.

She said herself her most proud achievement was New Labour (if I recall correctly)
 
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Janesy B said:
I don't think anyone has a problem with constructive criticism, it seems most people aren't capable of that and just show irrational hatred instead. It seems you can't be objective and if you're not dancing on the streets celebrating her death you suddenly become a Thatcherite.
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Constructive or not there is still the right to free speech. I haven't watched anything on TV, as I choose not to own one, specifically for the reason that I end up watching other peoples 'stuff' and it drives me insane. They are allowed to live and have free speech, but we are not obliged to watch or listen.
 
Extract from the BBC obit.

For many, her philosophy was summed up in a magazine interview she gave in 1987.

"I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand 'I have a problem, it is the government's job to cope with it!' or 'I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!'; 'I am homeless, the government must house me!' and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society?

"There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families, and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first.

"It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations."

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I am inclined to agree on that.
 
Jimmy Hillbilly said:
Constructive or not there is still the right to free speech. I haven't watched anything on TV, as I choose not to own one, specifically for the reason that I end up watching other peoples 'stuff' and it drives me insane. They are allowed to live and have free speech, but we are not obliged to watch or listen.
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I agree, it's just a shame that a lot of people use free speech as an excuse to be retarded.
 
TBH anyone under the age of 35 - 40 should GTFO as they actually won't have been there or experienced life under thatcherism and are simply regurgitaing the gash they hear whether its pro or against.

The bottom line is an old lady died, so why doesn't everyeone just show some dignity in all this rather than taking cheap shots......................
 
CaNsA said:
No, but she was guilty of another method of mass murder.
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Really, would you like to enlighten us before you inform the International Criminal Court?

Maybe a visit to your history teacher after half term would be advisable as you appear to need some tuition.
 
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