Can you quantify this majority of opinion?
Baroness Thatcher has died.
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Can you quantify this majority of opinion?
With her death and subsequent media frenzy, there have been quite a few polls done. They are all easily accessible via your favourite search engine.
It also tallies with my personal experiences and with the views expressed by the anti thatcher crew. IE, that anyone north of a certain point hates her and those south of that point like her. The majority of the country live in the south.
Do you disagree?
Clearly she had some followers - here are the voting results for the three elections she won while leading the tory party.
1979
Conservative 20,918 52.5 %
Labour 13,040 32.7 %
Liberal 5,254 13.2 %
1983
Conservative 19,616 51.1 %
Labour 10,302 26.8 %
Liberal 7,763 20.2 %
1987
Conservative 21,603 53.9 %
Labour 12,690 31.7 %
Liberal 5,580 13.9 %
Care to link some of these polls?
I think that's a bit of a false dichotomy if I'm honest, it's fine as a bit of a generalisation but to make out that the "anti thatcher crew" is a mere "vocal minority" is pushing it slightly I'd imagine.
'South' can mean anything.
2013?
You also seem to be basing your argument that each and every vote that the Conservative party received was directly and singularly because of the party leader. That's very narrow minded.
They are quite easy to find, a couple of seconds on google and you will find them.
Do you think a majority of the british public believe thatcher was good overall or bad overall?
I think it's probably somewhere in the middle if I'm honest, with general geographical distinctions but it isn't exclusive even if that is often the impression.
In political terms there is a clear split.
Who do you think you are voting for in a general election?
The polls ive seen have it around 50% seeing as as a great/good/positive PM, 30% is seeing her as terrible/bad/negative and the rest saying she wasnt good or bad or saying they dont have an opinion.
I dont know much about the geographical spread, i just go by what people who dislike her tend to say.
When you said I was basing my argument on the assumption each election vote was for the party leader. Thatcher was elected, then re-elected again - and again! Had the majority been so dead against the policies which she ultimately would have been responsible for when implemented, they would have taken their vote elsewhere or not even bothered voting at all if the opposition was so dreadful.
Just look at the margins!! It's not like they got in by a whisker. I am slightly concerned I'm out of my depth here, but the figures speak for themselves.
Just look at the margins!! It's not like they got in by a whisker. I am slightly concerned I'm out of my depth here, but the figures speak for themselves.
Is this a trick question? Or rhetorical?
It's not narrow minded. It's plain wrong. A general election is not a presidential election.
Is that the Sun's opinion poll yes?
Polls fluctuate over a period of time, and if you have consistent ones the average is what you take from it. If we were to take opinion from 1990 to now, and average it out. I don't think it would be 50pc/30pc.
Likewise, I only know a few people who have voted Tory in that period. Most people I encounter didn't vote for that Government at all. Those who did vote Tory then did it either for political belief, personal interest or things as simple as "I admired her as a strong women, I felt that she would do good". He later regretted it mind, but it shows you the diversity of thought and opinion that goes into politics.
I don't think that single poll encapsulates and crystallizes her legacy quite so definitively somehow.. I think to say it left a nation divided is probably accurate enough in both dimensions.
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I'm voting for my local constituency MP. Who are you voting for? A possible party leader who's name isn't on the ballot paper?
You'd be forgiven for thinking that these days though..
People do conflate when they vote, some people do it on personality others on policy, or tactically and so forth.
I believe it was the guardian/ICM, a MORI poll and a yougov poll. Im sorry, why would we average out 20 years of polls rather than looking at current opinion as its the here and now we are discussing.
What do I type into this search engine to find them?
Please tell me the location of the Maggic line. I think I may very much disagree with you.
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