I might not be as old as you but I am old enough to have also played all the BF games so I'm fully aware of PC gaming being consolised more each year. You should know by now that at the end of the day, that isn't going to change and things are only going to get worse especially when big AAA titles like this are involved.
As I said, I tried to avoid the official servers because of the retarded balancer and as you touched upon, no admins to handle cheaters.
Again... I don't want all control eliminated but there has to be some limitations to avoid this ****:
Fast vehicle spawn breaks the gameplay completely (especially for air combat, which is a big issue if you have "pro" players on), especially on bf 3 when the vehicles are so OP. I'm pretty sure DICE didn't intend on having the attack heli, jets etc. up 24/7...
I also paid for the game and I want to play certain maps i.e. tehran highway for sake of argument but... I can't find any server that has it in map rotation so what do I do? Just accept that because some guys/clans paid for a server that I have to play what they want despite them not actually being the developers/publisher/owners of the game?
Would server/clan owners seriously not rent a server just because they can't:
- change the spawn speed for vehicles to instant
- have only 1-3 maps on rotation
- add an auto kick for VIPs
- exceed 2000 tickets
- add some ridiculous k/d limit of 1
?
I think as long as they can do everything else i.e. name their server, kick/ban/spectate people then the majority would still quite happily get their own server.
Again... I don't want all control eliminated but if DICE are keeping custom servers then they need to start adding limitations to what server owners can do.
Too many people play the mugs game of pre-ordering and are happy to bend over for companies even when the game is released in an awful state or/and they have been lied to completely i.e. no mans sky, watch dogs, far cry 3, ACS unity etc. etc.So much for the BF community being all about the vehicle warfare and big open maps eh?
Its a pity the game will likely have no mod support, i could already envision a giant knob skin for the blimp
Once again:
If server admins aren't happy that they can't do the above then afaic, good riddance to those clans/owners.
You sound very nieve. If a community want a 24/7 locker server (which i hate) that is their choice because they are paying for it. You are not forced to play on them are you ?
The image you put up of those BF3 servers is an example. The people are playing on what they wanted and paid for. If you get rid of that then the BF3 player base as it stands would drop through the floor.
which would then kill off BF3 totally.
I get you see it as a bad thing but my point is you do not have to play on such servers.
Again it is the community that that server has built up which makes this game special.
Take that away and you have no clans no communities which this game was orignally designed for.
This is when the console control Police got stuck into COD
Now some decrease will be due to same old game year after year. But i can tell you as soon as activision removed (real) dedicated servers PC gamers had enough.
Back then there was a massive out cry but maybe now the younger generation will just say "oh well that's the way it's going".
To be fair, its not just the younger generation that will say 'oh well thats the way its going'. I've been gaming for what will soon be 4 decades and I also have a oh well thats the way its going attitude. So its some of us old folks too
You sound very nieve. If a community want a 24/7 locker server (which i hate) that is their choice because they are paying for it. You are not forced to play on them are you ?
The image you put up of those BF3 servers is an example. The people are playing on what they wanted and paid for. If you get rid of that then the BF3 player base as it stands would drop through the floor.
which would then kill off BF3 totally.
I get you see it as a bad thing but my point is you do not have to play on such servers.
Again it is the community that that server has built up which makes this game special.
Take that away and you have no clans no communities which this game was orignally designed for.
This is when the console control Police got stuck into COD
Now some decrease will be due to same old game year after year. But i can tell you as soon as activision removed (real) dedicated servers PC gamers had enough.
Back then there was a massive out cry but maybe now the younger generation will just say "oh well that's the way it's going".
I guess i am stuck in my ways. I just never thought Dice would go this way. They gained so many players from the COD community with what they did to their PC player base.
How about we set up a SOF2 server together and just have a laugh
..That would have been a FAT NO.
Nope but the problem is most of the BF community are brain dead considering the amount of locker/metro servers thus I and the other BF veterans are left with crap server choice therefore it is affecting us in some way as we are left with poor server choice for various reasons and as a result, it has killed the game for myself and others, maybe not the majority but it is still extremely frustrating.
Again, I am not doubting that not having custom servers will majorly affect the game community and longevity although for COD, I'm sure that there were a lot of other reasons for the declining player base i.e. no dedicated servers at all and relying on match making thus cheater galore, same rehashed game (which actually got worse for everything) etc.
In fact, just having a look at the stats site for bf 4 and hardline, there are more console players (not combined) than PC players despite consoles having controlled/fixed servers
And battlefront has more players on console than PC too and the servers are fixed/controlled for all platforms.
Only BF 3 on the PC platform has more players online than consoles but those are the old gen consoles so I am sure that if bf 3 was on the newer gen. consoles, we would probably see more console players there too.
So surely if custom dedicated servers did play a big part in an active community and the reason for there still being a player base on PC, wouldn't the numbers for all the above games be considerably less on console and much higher on PC?
And this just came through:
Time to rip the game apart only for them to not listen again...
