4 series was at a time when ATI/AMD still had poor drivers, they started improving at the end of the 5 series lifespan iirc. I remember having a 4890 that died when I installed a new set of drivers.
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Battlefield 4 Recommended Requirements - 3GB Vram
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4 series was at a time when ATI/AMD still had poor drivers, they started improving at the end of the 5 series lifespan iirc. I remember having a 4890 that died when I installed a new set of drivers.
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It's swings and round abouts.
I had two 3870s that I couldn't even use due to Power Play being the biggest pile of turd since I can remember. Things have come along way since then. Wasn't knocking AMD cards in anyway in my initial post. But owning a lot of cards - for similar results AMD cards tend to use more VRAM.
Quite funny how you can go from saying that Nvidia has decent management and get someone on the defensive trying to justify their purchase.
I had two 3870s that I couldn't even use due to Power Play being the biggest pile of turd since I can remember. Things have come along way since then. Wasn't knocking AMD cards in anyway in my initial post. But owning a lot of cards - for similar results AMD cards tend to use more VRAM.
Quite funny how you can go from saying that Nvidia has decent management and get someone on the defensive trying to justify their purchase.
Those days are gone my friend.
I pulled the first two pages from gamegpu's latest released and reviewed titles. Couldn't be bothered to go back further.
It compares vram usage of red vs green, 7970 vs 780 vs titan.
Since AMD did the memory management re-write early this year (around feb-march time) they've generally (though not always) used less vram than the green counter part.
From the titles i pulled only in Saints Row did Nvidia use less vram than AMD.
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I want to go on record and say I do like that you help a lot of users here mat. You seem like a great guy,but would like to hear your opinion on both sides not just AMD.
Well when you haven't used a card from the other side for a while it's hard to offer an opinion. I can see why Matt prefers to discuss AMD.
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Really? Those new maps look graphically very very familiar.
BF3.5 has a tweaked engine at most. No way have they started from scratch just to end up with the same look!
I don't talk much about Nvidia because i don't use their cards so thats why i don't generally spout any FUD about then. I stick to what i know. If that makes me a fanboy then so be it. As long as im seen as a helpful fanboy then im happy with that. Could care less what anyone thinks of me.
Suarez summed it up.
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Exactly, guess what, never found a GTX670 lacking in anyway in BF3 either at 1080p (not tried at 2560x1440 ).
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I think it's about time you get something Nv.
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I've owned both cards many times. Really looking forward to what AMD bring this time. If it's good and cheaper and better then a 780 then ill buy AMD. This time around.
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Matt. Management doesn't just mean overall usage. It's how it copes when hitting a VRAM limitations and overall handling / effects on performance. It's not FUD at all, it's several years of comparing the like from experience. It's not as black and white as that. Which you'd probably admit if you weren't quite so bias.
I did start out by saying NV cards were good with it, as opposed to better to avoid any fanboy remarks. Sadly it didn't work.
I did start out by saying NV cards were good with it, as opposed to better to avoid any fanboy remarks. Sadly it didn't work.
I can't really understand how people are declaring that BF4 will have the same requirements as BF3, and that the engine will be basically the same, when the developers say otherwise and the game isn't even out in beta. Looking at the info from DICE, the engine is very much improved.
Well it's bound to be better, AMD have had months to tweak to make sure they can beat the 780, that's why I won't compare the 780 I bought with the 9970 or whatever as it isn't fair when you look at how much time they've had to improve. It's like having a race around the world and setting 1 guy off at say 100mph then a few hours later set another off going 300 (calculations not made) Price well who knows, the 7970's weren't cheap on release.
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Indeed, the engine is improved, but it is not completely new.
That's the general point some of us are making.
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If that's the case I'll just get a 780 or might wait to see what Nv bring Q1 2014.
Just because you say something doesn't make it true. I'd say the more efficient use of memory would come down largely to using less vram for equal performance. If you can present anything to show me that is incorrect then please do so. Otherwise you and Retro will clearly have to leave me to my bias and fanboyism.
I don't want to keep on Frosty with these graphs but i pulled a couple more from some more recent well known titles including Metro Last Light, a Nvidia game.
I have my reasons for going with AMD. The main one is price vs performance. AMD are always far ahead in my opinion on this front. If i had money to spare i might consider a more expensive but generally worse performing card from the other side. As it stands i need to get the best bang for my buck and for as long as i can remember that's been AMD.
I think the titan and 780 are great cards from afar but id rather have two cheaper, faster cards if it gives me more grunt and allows me to game with higher details and more AA. That's what 7950 crossfire currently offers me. All the games i play dx11 games, they all scale wonderfully with crossfire and now there is frame pacing and consistent frame time delivery i have no reason to change to a worse performance card.
I also happen to enjoy the large majority of GE titles and play them frequently and most of them play better on AMD hardware than equivalently priced Nvidia hardware.
I have nothing against Nvidia but unless they get more competitive on price, or i have large amounts of money to waste getting 2x780/titan's then i can't see any logical reason to switch from what i have now.
I'll leave it at that before i derail the thread.
Ditto
Lucky for you i won't make the above remarks about you.
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