Battlefield 4 Recommended Requirements - 3GB Vram

[Jono8]

Exactly, guess what, never found a GTX670 lacking in anyway in BF3 either at 1080p (not tried at 2560x1440 ).

Even if you did try at 2560x1440 it would be fine. I have found two reviews/benchmarks ( just from a brief google) which show now difference between a 2gb or 4gb 680 at 5670x1080.


1 as an example
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/43109-evga-geforce-gtx-680-classified-4gb/?page=7

Not that it would even matter if the 2gb did hit a wall because the 4gb isnt geting playable frames per second anyway : /...and if it isnt getting playable framerates in Battlefield 3 at that res, it most certainly wont get them in Battlefield 4 with all it's supposed new tech stuff...

This whole thread is : /

 

[Jono8]

So just to wrap up this thread in a nutshell, DICE release via twitter I might add rather than the official website, the system requirements for Battlefield 4.
In a somewhat confusing fashion these list the recommended cards as a 7870 or 660ti both of which are as standard 2GB cards (in fact I don't think you can get a 7870 with more than 2GB, please feel free to link to a manufacturer that does one) but then goes on to show that 3GB is the recommended amount of Vram.

This of course sparks of the usual red vs green argument, a lot of which seems to be centred around some graphs of the test that was run on the early alpha version of Battlefield 4, with one of the arguments being that side A's data must be correct because its a alpha test whereas side B's data cannot be right because its an alpha test.

So to be honest all we know is that Battlefield 4 is coming and it will run on things as low as dual core CPU and 3870/8800 class of GPU as for the rest it's all marketing.

Just remember the recommended specs for Battlefield 3 were:

Recommended system requirements for Battlefield 3
•OS: Windows 7 64-bit
•Processor: Quad-core Intel or AMD CPU
•RAM: 4GB
•Graphics card: DirectX 11 Nvidia or AMD ATI card, Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 or ATI Radeon 6950.
•Graphics card memory: 1 GB
•Sound card: DirectX compatibl sound card
•Hard drive: 15 GB for disc version or 10 GB for digital version


Bottom line to use a truncated quote from LtMatt

Dont forget that in the performance benchmarks the GTX 580 1.5gb didnt seem to be hitting any vram wall either....at 1080p 4xAA.

 

[setter]

Exactly, guess what, never found a GTX670 lacking in anyway in BF3 either at 1080p (not tried at 2560x1440 ).

Same, memory usage is usually maxed at around 1500mb according to ab osd. Thats at 1920x1200, x4 msaa, 16x af and ultra settings. One 670 coped great in the game for me, but i added another as it was cheap.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

So have we established yet if this recommendation of 3GB is for 1080p, 1440p, 1600p or some multi monitor setup?

 

[Uncle Petey]

Can we maybe make a defined thread where bets are placed and forfeits are at stake over this?
I'd buy that for a dollar

 

[Kaapstad]

My GTX 690s run BF3 @1600p maxed and have no problem getting over 100fps.

Bring on BF4.

 

[spixelspixel]

So have we established yet if this recommendation of 3GB is for 1080p, 1440p, 1600p or some multi monitor setup?

Who knows... regardless of what its for, the VRAM recommendation obviously should match that of the recommend cards (ie 660 + 7870). If you ask me, it's clear that the only reason it says 3GB instead of 2GB is because AMD told them to do it.

 

[LtMatt]

So have we established yet if this recommendation of 3GB is for 1080p, 1440p, 1600p or some multi monitor setup?

Not yet, hence the speculation. If we take Bru's post of BF3 Rec specs as an example. 1gb was the recommended amount and the game will use up to around 2gb without exceeding. So we could assume that the game will use up to 4gb and not exceed in BF4 using the same theory. Or it could just use up to 3gb and not exceed. Depends how you look at it. Looking at it like 2gb will be plenty is unlikely i reckon.

My GTX 690s run BF3 @1600p maxed and have no problem getting over 100fps.

The thing is no one has ever said 2gb wasn't enough for Battlefield 3. Battlefield 3's recommended specs were only 1gb though and usage definitely went way over that. So does that mean the same will happen with Bf4? One would think so.

 

[RetrogamerX]

Can we maybe make a defined thread where bets are placed and forfeits are at stake over this?
I'd buy that for a dollar

Yes. Good idea.

 

[bru]

So have we established yet if this recommendation of 3GB is for 1080p, 1440p, 1600p or some multi monitor setup?

nope not at all, just remember that when BF3 was launched a 1GB 560 was the recommended spec, so I really wouldn't take that 7870/660ti and 3GB recommendation too seriously.
I reckon the full bells and whistles will require much more than a 7870 or 660ti can provide and 3GB fits too nicely into the market in terms of a sales pitch in my opinion to actually mean anything.

Will the game run better with 3GB? who knows

Will the game run well with 2GB? of course it will, else Dice have just put off 70/80% of perspective buyers.

 

[setter]

Can we maybe make a defined thread where bets are placed and forfeits are at stake over this?
I'd buy that for a dollar

I volunteer my services as bookmaker. And no i wont run off with your money guys.

Now where did i leave my passport?

 

[Kaapstad]

The thing is no one has ever said 2gb wasn't enough for Battlefield 3. Battlefield 3's recommended specs were only 1gb though and usage definitely went way over that. So does that mean the same will happen with Bf4? One would think so.

I am counting on BF3 and BF4 having similar game engines.

Also the debate in this thread is about whether 2gb will be ok @1080p for BF4. My point is it is ok @1600p for BF3 so unless something has changed a huge amount, 2gb should be fine for BF4 @1080p

 

[RetrogamerX]

nope not at all, just remember that when BF3 was launched a 1GB 560 was the recommended spec, so I really wouldn't take that 7870/660ti and 3GB recommendation too seriously.
I reckon the full bells and whistles will require much more than a 7870 or 660ti can provide and 3GB fits too nicely into the market in terms of a sales pitch in my opinion to actually mean anything.

Will the game run better with 3GB? who knows

Will the game run well with 2GB? of course it will, else Dice have just put off 70/80% of perspective buyers.

+1

 

[LtMatt]

Will the game run better with 3GB? who knows

Will the game run well with 2GB? of course it will, else Dice have just put off 70/80% of perspective buyers.

I agree. It might just require having to tone down AA to x2 or disable it completely for 2gb cards at 1080p/1440p/1600p, or it might not. One things for sure a vram requirement of 3gb would not be there if its not needed, depending on settings and resolution used. It just makes no sense for Dice to do this when they've never done it before.

I am counting on BF3 and BF4 having similar game engines.

Also the debate in this thread is about whether 2gb will be ok @1080p for BF4. My point is it is ok @1600p for BF3 so unless something has changed a huge amount, 2gb should be fine for BF4 @1080p

I would say the fact the recommended vram specs have jumped up a whole 2gb from bf3 recommended specs suggests something has changed, wouldn't you?

I also don't think 1080p will be a problem if at all. As ive said from the start 1440/1660p might be though.

 

[Uncle Petey]

Yes. Good idea.

I volunteer my services as bookmaker. And no i wont run off with your money guys.

Now where did i leave my passport?

Excellent.
No money has to be involved, just e-kudos for the winners and perhaps an embarrassing forfeit for the losers.
I say perhaps, but I don't mean it

Anyway, I haven't been keeping up with the techno babble up in here, so you'll have to arrange the conditions etc. I'm just the idea guy.


Matt's a bit quiet on this. Not lost your bottle er, conviction have ya Matty?

 

[Jono8]

The thing is no one has ever said 2gb wasn't enough for Battlefield 3. Battlefield 3's recommended specs were only 1gb though and usage definitely went way over that. So does that mean the same will happen with Bf4? One would think so.

So you are now saying a 3gb card is not enough

 

[Tonester0011]

I agree. It might just require having to tone down AA to x2 or disable it completely for 2gb cards at 1080p/1440p/1600p, or it might not. One things for sure a vram requirement of 3gb would not be there if its not needed, depending on settings and resolution used. It just makes no sense for Dice to do this when they've never done it before.



I would say the fact the recommended vram specs have jumped up a whole 2gb from bf3 recommended specs suggests something has changed, wouldn't you?

I also don't think 1080p will be a problem if at all. As ive said from the start 1440/1660p might be though.

Probably need something like 3, 2GB cards to actually provide enough grunt to push the settings required to push over the VRAM wall whilst still maintaining playable FPS. Something that's always been said, that also means 2GB card will be fine at the above resolutions because they'd have to turn settings down to actually play the game.

We're just going in circles when the topic of VRAM comes into play, if the game maxed out required 2200mb you can almost guarantee the cards that have less than the required amount also have less than the required grunt, so it's a moot point.

I'll buy you BF4 if that's not the case.

 

[LtMatt]

Well young Petey all ive ever said is based on the evidence we have so far, it might not be enough. Then the recommended specs came out which reinforced my view somewhat. I've never said that 2gb wouldn't be enough at 1080p, but that maybe AA/details might have to be sacrificed at higher resolutions.

Basically similar to what Tommy posted earlier about pcper's findings. It might not be a case of running out of vram, it might be a case of worse performance, stuttering as vram textures are loaded into the page file for example as vram is full.

There is more to just 'caching' the vram or running out.

Pcper showed the difference extra vram makes in regards to smoothness between 2Gb 4Gb 680's on BF3.



Frame Rating: BF3 High End GPUs Benchmarked at 4K Resolutions









http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...marked-4K-Resolutions/Battlefield-3-Single-GP

Not got long to go now and all will be revealed, either way, I'm sure some cards will play better than others...

 

[Uncle Petey]

Bugger. I'm forced to agree.

 

[LtMatt]

So you are now saying a 3gb card is not enough

If you think the Battlefield 3 specs are accurate? They were only 1gb and 2gb ended up being the right amount.

For the record i can't see this being the case but this was based on kaap saying battlefield 4 will be the same as battlefield 3.

Probably need something like 3, 2GB cards to actually provide enough grunt to push the settings required to push over the VRAM wall whilst still maintaining playable FPS. Something that's always been said, that also means 2GB card will be fine at the above resolutions because they'd have to turn settings down to actually play the game.

We're just going in circles when the topic of VRAM comes into play, if the game maxed out required 2200mb you can almost guarantee the cards that have less than the required amount also have less than the required grunt, so it's a moot point.

I'll buy you BF4 if that's not the case.

Sounds good Tone.

I can't see you needing 3 2gb cards to get playable fps while exceeding 2gb in battlefield 4 at single screen res, but we'll see.