Battlefield 4 Thread ~ Server details in opening post ~

I couldn't care less about skill and winning every single round, all I want is to have fun good close rounds, which bf 3 currently does not provide on the majority of maps for conquest and rush, at least for me anyway.

My stats are decent (>750SPM, 17% accuracy, 1.85K/D [which is increasing quite a bit now and should hit 3+ if I keep playing the way I am, mostly infantry player and use tanks every now and then, heli very rarely and I don't really touch jets at all now], decent amount of 1st, 2nd & 3rd MVP ribbons, >1.5 w/l ratio etc.) plus I was at a huge disadvantage for the first 130 or so hours as I had crappy FPS [15-30] with my 4850 512MB but I would trade them all for really **** stats just to have good fun games.

K/D is the biggest problem, a lot of stats just need to be removed from the game (especially when it is suppose to be more team based....), other ones being skill, SPM etc. Only stats that we should see are team stuff like revives, accuracy, ribbon stuff etc.

When I see people's k/d etc. that are really high (almost cheater like), at first I think wow but then I go and look at how much time they have spent in vehicles (particularly jets and helis) and those figures/stats are FAR less impressive then. Fair enough if that is how they like to play, after all they paid for the game so can play however they want.

If I wanted to play for pure skill/competitive gaming then I would be playing CS! :p

Bad company was a half assed version of battlefield aimed at consoles with no prone, limied vehicle support etc..

It had a decent PC version, but the games roots lie firmly with a version of battlefield aimed squarely at Console users.

Now that BF3 sold so well on consoles, theres no need to have a separate console franchise.

And yet most PC players think that BC 2 is way better than BF 3! :D :p

I get what you mean

You aren't opposed to the idea of there being a tac light in the game, but you dislike the taclight in BF3.

My same standpoint still applies. It's still going to blind you in BF4, and all the stuff you list as not liking the "implementation of" is still going to be there in BF4 such as vehicle health regen.

Seriously, buy another game if there is that much you dislike the implementation of.

Well if you understand what I mean then why is it so much of a problem?

A lot of the stuff I have listed is what puts a lot of other people of bf 3 and chances are if DICE haven't changed/improved those things then it will just be the exact same complaints again so they would be stupid to not fix/improve them....

How do you know that it will still blind you in bright environments in BF 4 anyway? Has there been a video showing it specifically?

That is why I posted in my previous post, we don't know yet what things will be like in bf 4 till we play for ourselves, especially not till the final game due the amount of changes there will be.

Of course if the rest of the game is excellent and the stuff like levolution is throughout the entire map (rather than just 1-2 areas) then I could put up with the bad implementation of those things listed, except for the main basics such as a poor balanced team system/landslide wins etc. BF 3 didn't really have anything "great" about it to make up for the problems where as BF 4 does have a lot of great stuff (at least it looks to be from the videos so far.... ) i.e. the dynamic weather, levolution, better destruction, great designed maps etc. so all of that could make the listed potential problems more bearable to live with if you know what I mean?

As DG said, if there was another good FPS game then I would, but there is nothing that really competes with bf, COD is just dog ****, planetside II is good but has "too much" going on (made even worse without a proper tutorial), takes forever to find action, "requires" team/squad play and I don't like the pay to get better weapons etc.
 
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You haven't broken anything down for me apart from continuing with your no skill rant. Then at the end you just said all public gaming is like that so why make a point of it in Battlefield then? I know why, because you like complaining about the game as usual.

You can link this aim assist mouse as it isn't actually a cheat if it just assists, I don't mean a link to actually buy the mouse, but a link proving it exists. As for saying it can be done via software, just no. No software has the ability to read targets in game and help your mouse move towards them apart from an actual aimbot hack.

Once again though you'll just say but no it's true without providing any evidence.

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so aim assist is not a hack ? :D cheers just laughed for like 5 minutes at that cheers. made me chuckle :p

you arnt allowed to use aim assist it is a instant ban ! in any game ! with any anticheat. as said you are clueless. you used to be able to do a lot of stuff simply in the configs or in mice like the pro noobs with aek who edited to have no recoil bind the buttons to up down left right so when fire doesnt recoil. ask someone who knows about it if you cant dont understand.

many people use mouse /mice hacks or have hacks in mice now.

also google roccat hacks or razer hacks. welcome to battlefield
 
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so aim assist is not a hack ? :D cheers just laughed for like 5 minutes at that cheers. made me chuckle :p

you arnt allowed to use aim assist it is a instant ban ! in any game ! with any anticheat. as said you are clueless. you used to be able to do a lot of stuff simply in the configs or in mice like the pro noobs with aek who edited to have no recoil bind the buttons to up down left right so when fire doesnt recoil. ask someone who knows about it if you cant dont understand.

many people use mouse /mice hacks or have hacks in mice now.

also google roccat hacks or razer hacks. welcome to battlefield

Aim assist isn't a hack because as I told you it isn't possible to do it through external software, it can't be anything if it doesn't exist.

There are a handful of games with an option in game for aim assist and that's the only place you will ever see it.

Aimbotting is the only other way you can have software target for you but that is completely different to aim assist.

Well done making yourself look stupid again by not providing evidence for what you claim to be true.
 
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omg you make my headhurt :rolleyes:

aim assist that doesn't exist !

google roccat aim assist, razer aim assist. just two examples of what doesn't exist.

as said google aim assist is it that hard to understand its a cheat .

basically many people use this in fps games now as its quite hard to detect. a lot of pros got caught using the roccat and razer ones.

also one of the top bf3 teams at the time a while ago used the no recoil with the aek to win many matches. if you dont know fair enough but if you dont know and just say it doesnt exist without looking you are a fool.

takes seconds to see on google.

the latest mouse i found which has the technology and i have seen videos on youtube of a russian playing with it in bf3 is 12 dollars and not banned by pb.
 
i gave you all data to show you what i said is true.

video shows no recoil and spread aiming. other mice like roccat mice and razer mice can have aim assist aswell . you wont acknowledge it don't worry about it.

heres the mouse specification if you cant understand or read i cant help with that

The Bloody gaming series designed by Taiwan A4Tech, who has 25 years mouse R&D experience, with the company strength and 9 years well research thus born the first “Multi-Core Gun3” gaming mice.
BLOODY Gun3 - The Multi-Core design has 6 breakthrough innovations with 3 shooting modes so ensure the Gamers to win the game easily.
The Bloody gaming mice is the world's most accurate shooting mice with auto recoil suppression and concentrated trajectory, which offers the unprecedented high headshot rate. It also offers both software and hardware dual trajectory adjustments.
The Bloody gaming mice is the cutting-edge technology, creating state-of-the-art, completely improves the suffering of using poor weapons to compete against the superior-equipped opponents.

the only difference with the roccat ones and razer is the driver with those was banned by pb and such not shore if there is a newer version undetected probably but i dont play comp so i dont check.
 
Dg I think you're mistaken with what aim assist actually is. Nothing you have said or shown proves any mouse actually assists you to aim. All I've seen is lower bullet spread so far. I think I'll join Westie with my deathadder and start pwnin all as it's obviously so easy.

As Chrisimo said above, the stuff you've shown is normal hacks and will eventually be banned if it isn't already.
 
DG just mad he cant empty a full clip of 320 in 3 seconds on the exact same spot.

That A4Tech mouses are nothing new, cheap tactics? Yes, but hey what you gonna do about it?
just recoil and spread controlled by macros. By my knowledge same results cant be done with a deathadder but hey i dont use a deathadder anymore as the mousewheel always breaks on me :(
 
i think semantics are getting in the way of this discussion, DG obviously meant that having your mouse compensate automatically for recoil was the same as having aim assist. if you want to draw a disticntion between the two then so be it, but i understood what he was on about.
it's obvious that these things are about and should be considered hacks
 
i think semantics are getting in the way of this discussion, DG obviously meant that having your mouse compensate automatically for recoil was the same as having aim assist. if you want to draw a disticntion between the two then so be it, but i understood what he was on about.
it's obvious that these things are about and should be considered hacks

I think no one disagrees that there are hacks for BF3 and no one disagrees that you can use macro-programs with BF3 to compensate for recoil/spread. But he seems to confuse the two.
 
well i think if those mouse anti recoil programs help you aim then they can be described as 'aim assist'. as opposed to in game system of helping you aim which is know as 'Aim Assist'#

see, i'm actually defending DG's point.

now i have to take a shower
 
I think no one disagrees that there are hacks for BF3 and no one disagrees that you can use macro-programs with BF3 to compensate for recoil/spread. But he seems to confuse the two.

Yep, this was the problem.

Maybe it was just the way Dg explained it but it's hard to read his posts at times.
 
I do agree with Battlefield 3 (and 4) that in modes other than Team deathmatch, K/D ratio should not even be counted/shown.

They could change the way the game is played for the better just by emphasizing assists, flag captures, bomb arms/disarms etc as the primary stats.
 
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