BBC possibly to drop F1 coverage...
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Its not based on IP. On Sky player you can currently register up to 5 PCs (not 100% on the number) to the account and then on the pc classed as the main pc, you can then watch live TV (all your channels that you are subscribed to that are streamed) and all the movies content. If it isnt your main PC, you can only watch a selection of live channels from what I can remember.
The support doesn't look like it's all there if you look at Williams' comments.
Just for your information guys.
Sky Sports 1 got just under 1.5 million viewers at the end of may for the Champions League final between Barcalona and Manchester United.
At the start of May they had a game on Super Sunday which got 2.6 million. That was for the Manchester United v Chelsea match. Quite easily one of the biggest games of the season.
BBC got 6.27 on BBC1 for the Canadian GP (no idea for BBC 1 HD)
4.9 for the British GP
5.15 for Monaco
4.75 for Spain
http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyTopProgrammes/?
Sky Sports 1 got just under 1.5 million viewers at the end of may for the Champions League final between Barcalona and Manchester United.
At the start of May they had a game on Super Sunday which got 2.6 million. That was for the Manchester United v Chelsea match. Quite easily one of the biggest games of the season.
BBC got 6.27 on BBC1 for the Canadian GP (no idea for BBC 1 HD)
4.9 for the British GP
5.15 for Monaco
4.75 for Spain
http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyTopProgrammes/?
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I think F1 is making a big mistake here.
Millions of supporters of F1 will be alienated by this.
Sky have @10m subscribers in the UK. How many of them will want to pay extra for F1 coverage ?
This type of live coverage does not sit well with adverts every 10 mins either.
Also, how much bleedin' money does Bernie Eccleston need ?
I don't know if this is done and dusted but let's hope the teams reverse this somehow.
I wonder if Murdoch has hacked Bernie's phone ? Huge lulz if he did.
Millions of supporters of F1 will be alienated by this.
Sky have @10m subscribers in the UK. How many of them will want to pay extra for F1 coverage ?
This type of live coverage does not sit well with adverts every 10 mins either.
Also, how much bleedin' money does Bernie Eccleston need ?
I don't know if this is done and dusted but let's hope the teams reverse this somehow.
I wonder if Murdoch has hacked Bernie's phone ? Huge lulz if he did.
The problem with A1GP is that people werent interested in it because it wasnt Formula 1. Its the same reason why far fewer people are interested in Formula 3 than Formula 1, the same reason why far fewer people are interested in League Two football than Premier League football and the same reason why far fewer people are interested in Queens Tennis than Wimbledon. Not sure that a comparison of A1GPs viewing ratings to Formula 1s would be entirely representative of whether F1 on Sky would succeed or fail.
I think we are screwed no matter what happens, in 2012, advertising will be OK since it's on SKY and the BBC, I'm sure combined it'll be palatable for the F1 advertisers etc..
Lets face it, Sky (despite being overpriced etc) aren't the evil behemoth in this, the BBC where offloading F1, no one wants it and the deal is the BBC get 50% live races, 50% highlights, Sky aren't going to make much out of it.. Hence why the subscriptions are expensive, that's how much it costs..
You can get Skysports on just about every medium, Freeview(topuptv), Sky, Virgin and BT to name ones off the top of my head.. the economics are just what things cost these days, to expect the BBC to keep paying such a ludicrous amount, no matter how much I wish it could stay as is, I know it's just not feasible..
Pay up or shut up.. Only Bernie dropping the fees substantially can get us out of this mess..
I guess it's as the Williams guys says. If they get money from the paying viewers and that makes up for the loss of all the non-paying viewers then the teams probably won't be too fussed.
You could argue though that the teams won't be able to demand quite such high figures for advertising space on the cars if the amount of people seeing that advertising halves.
Why couldn't the BBC ask fans for a premium payment to watch the F1? The license fee has been frozen but could they not ask for some kind of emergency payment to help fund it? Sacking Alan Carr would probably help too.
It's a strange decision - figures for the half that are only on Sky will be significantly down, maybe only a quarter of the BBC figures, maybe less. The races on BBC will also be down a bit due to reduced overall interest.
With this single decision, UK viewing could approximately halve. This seems crazy for such an advertising funded sport. Surely the short term economic benefit isn't worth the long term weakening that a significantly reduced fan base represents.
Do you remember the cricket? We won the ashes one year when it was on c4 (I believe). People cheering in the street, people who weren't fans watching it, victory parade, the team visits the queen, people lining the streets.
Apparently we have won it since but as I don't follow cricket I didn't know. I certainly don't remember them taking an open top bus tour...and where was it broadcast since the move from c4? Oh sky you say?
Apparently we have won it since but as I don't follow cricket I didn't know. I certainly don't remember them taking an open top bus tour...and where was it broadcast since the move from c4? Oh sky you say?
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Done. Really cannot believe this is happening.
Indeed, Sky aren't evil and the BBC certainly aren't. If anyone is 'evil' it's the F1 owners, CVC Capital Partners and the manager Ecclestone, however, I expect Ecclestone is only doing his job of extracted maximum near term revenue for controlling shareholder CVC Partners' investment.
Mind you, to be fair, I dont remember people cheering in the street when Hamilton won the title, a victory parade or people lining the streets either and that was broadcast on BBC
It's a sad mechanism, but it all boils down to greed on both sides, take premiership football, the league kept asking for more and more money so they could give the clubs more and more money to buy even more expensive players etc, unfortunately as it got too expensive, it was only Sky that where willing to pay the money, since they can generate the income to make it profitable (Due to greedily high prices)... it's a self fuelling greedfest.. the only losers are us.. but it is the way of the world.. people want something badly, it will be exploited..
Luckily I got over any hangups I had about Sky et al years ago, you have to live your life, if you have a family, paying £30-£40 on TV a month seems justifiable considering how expensive everything else is.. Bowling, night at the pub, cinema, theatre, the gym, etc, etc, all seem to offer far less entertainment 'time' for a degree more..
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For anyone wanting to try the dish way. You can get a HD Freesat box for £80+dish£40+motor£40
Use http://www.dishpointer.com/ to get the dish pointing to Satellite for the F1 races.
All done by google maps so it will be easy
Use http://www.dishpointer.com/ to get the dish pointing to Satellite for the F1 races.
All done by google maps so it will be easy
I quite liked A1 GP - the whole country vs country in the same spec cars. Shame it didn't last more than a few seasons.
I definitely liked the same spec cars aspect. Put the onus more on the driver than the mechanics. But it lacked the names and sparkle of F1.
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