BBC possibly to drop F1 coverage...

[JRS]

trust bernie to come out with some BS.. even make himself look a fool great promoter for the sport see who can spot the blunder
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93491

This bit gives me a little hope:

"I've been finalising this all night long and one or two things might change a little."

"Sky will broadcast everything, all the races, live. The Beeb will do 50 per cent live, and when it isn't live, they will be putting together a very good highlights package.

"They [BBC] may yet do the whole race deferred, we have to see."

I tend to watch the races slightly delayed anyway, usually by about an hour or so, as I often have something better to do at the exact time the race is on. So I don't mind watching the race on tape-delay-broadcast a couple of hours after the race ends. And hell, even if you know the result at the flag it's probably been altered by a stewards decision by the time the BBC would be broadcasting the race....

 

[Skyboat]

trust bernie to come out with some BS.. even make himself look a fool great promoter for the sport see who can spot the blunder
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93491

Do you mean this bit?

there are going to be a lot more people viewing, and a lot more opportunities for people to view

He makes it seem as if people who have Sky already aren't able to watch it on the BBC right now

 

[ZG002]

JRS I do hope so,

It's no good for me, I'm back living at my mums but will most likely be moving back out next year (when I get some money saved up). Are Sky sub's transferable between houses?

Not that I can see myself paying £40+ a month for F1 and all the other rubbish on Sky. :/

 

[ps3ud0]

I havent a clue where I got those figures in my head - thought it was F1Fanatic but its not - ready to be totally wrong. Also no doubt this morning the exact details of the deal werent public knowledge either...

ps3ud0

Found the link - figures were wrong . More like saving £25mil per year on what was a £50mil spend on F1 - so I guess they get half the races for 50% of the money

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/jul/29/formula-one-coverage-bbc-sky-share

The BBC has defended its decision to renegotiate its Formula One contract and share coverage with Sky in a deal expected to save the corporation at least £25m a year, claiming it would have otherwise been forced to ditch the sport altogether.

The corporation has given up the final two years of its exclusive five-year deal, which cost around £50m a year, and reinvested the proceeds in a new shared deal with Sky that runs until 2018 but will mean the BBC shows only half of the races live.

This bit gives me a little hope:

I tend to watch the races slightly delayed anyway, usually by about an hour or so, as I often have something better to do at the exact time the race is on. So I don't mind watching the race on tape-delay-broadcast a couple of hours after the race ends. And hell, even if you know the result at the flag it's probably been altered by a stewards decision by the time the BBC would be broadcasting the race....

Knowing how strict they are with MOTD highlights I very much doubt Sky will allow delayed full race coverage on the same day - nice to be wrong though

ps3ud0

 

[NightSt@lk3r]

Do you mean this bit?



He makes it seem as if people who have Sky already aren't able to watch it on the BBC right now

Agreed, everyone who recieves a television signal in the UK gets BBC 1, i think we can all agree that is far more than receive Sky Sports.

If the BBC wanted to save money they could have just not spent £900m on moving there departments to Salford.

 

[utajoker]

maybe you should all complain to the bbc.

as we all know, 1 complaint = 1 million viewers.

 

[FreeStream]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93494

It says here that Bernie said that the races will still be full, but deferred...

So perhaps the current BBC format will stay except it will be broadcast a few hours later?

That... I can live with, but nothing less.

 

[Glaucus]

If the BBC wanted to save money they could have just not spent £900m on moving there departments to Salford.

modernisation and longterm money saving.

 

[JHeaton]

McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh says early indications about the detail of the deal for Sky Sports and the BBC to share Formula 1 television rights in the United Kingdom are encouraging for teams.

It was announced this morning that from 2012 to 2018 only half the F1 races will broadcast live on the free-to-air BBC as part of the new arrangement.

But despite initial concerns about the implications for viewing figures, Whitmarsh said after talks with F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone, he could see more positives for F1 - especially as Ecclestone had suggested that the BBC would still show full-length versions of its 'non-live' races rather than just highlights.

"From what Bernie has said it's better than expected," said Whitmarsh.

"The BBC will show every grand prix in full, half of them live and half of them deferred, so free-to-air is available to everyone.

"Sky sound like they are really going to commit to it as well, so it sounds like there is a little bit of competition between the BBC and Sky.

"So overall, from Bernie's view, it will increase the total viewership within the UK.

"Bernie assured me, and I asked him several times, the deferred coverage will not be highlights, it will be a full race.

"That, to some fans, will be very important, depending on exactly races they are, so hopefully that means it's a good deal for everyone."

Whitmarsh said teams were becoming more receptive to the deal as more details emerged.

"Based upon that, if it increases the total viewership, and it maintains the ability of free to air for all of the viewing public in the UK, then cautiously it's good news isn't it?" he said of the paddock's reaction.

He accepted that many fans were likely to be angry, but hoped the cost implications would be less severe than they feared.

"I can understand why," said Whitmarsh. "Based on what I've heard there won't be a premium for watching Formula 1 on Sky, so it sounds like it's good news rather than bad.

"We have to try and maintain the show, work harder, try and reach out to fans, listen to them, we'll continue doing that, hopefully we can all work together to make the sport much bigger."

Well, that's a start, but it's still not great.

 

[Setroc]

Found the link - figures were wrong . More like saving £25mil per year on what was a £50mil spend on F1 - so I guess they get half the races for 50% of the money

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/jul/29/formula-one-coverage-bbc-sky-share



Knowing how strict they are with MOTD highlights I very much doubt Sky will allow delayed full race coverage on the same day - nice to be wrong though

ps3ud0

Ah but they are paying half for half the races, but that half is shared with another broadcaster, so it's more like paying half for quarter of the races. Then there's the fact that a lot of people, myself included, are not interested in buying sky, and are not interested in watching half a season. They are going to lose a lot of viewers from this move. I'd be surprised if for half of their original cost they get an eighth of their previous audience.

 

[Glaucus]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93494

It says here that Bernie said that the races will still be full, but deferred...

So perhaps the current BBC format will stay except it will be broadcast a few hours later?

That... I can live with, but nothing less.

Well that goes against the BBC statement who say it's all finalised and extended highlites not full race.
And also goes against what bernie said that full race MAY still be on the cards.

Does anyone know what contract they have actually signed

 

[NightSt@lk3r]

Well, that's a start, but it's still not great.

Bernie said that was a possibility, but as it stands now its only highlights.

 

[Glaucus]

How has whitmarsh swallowed berries bs?
increase viewing numbers. How will that happen, everyone can watch BBC. It's like they all think. You have a BBC subscription or a sky subscription.

 

[arknor]

Do you mean this bit?

no i meant this bit

"For those who can't watch Sky, they can still watch on a Sunday night, which will probably be better than watching the whole race live half the time," he added.

How has whitmarsh swallowed berries bs?
increase viewing numbers. How will that happen, everyone can watch BBC. It's like they all think. You have a BBC subscription or a sky subscription.

they seem to think sky beeing in 10million hmes is the same as 10million people have the channel f1 will be shown on

 

[robjf]

How has whitmarsh swallowed berries bs?
increase viewing numbers. How will that happen, everyone can watch BBC. It's like they all think. You have a BBC subscription or a sky subscription.

My thoughts exactly. It very much seems like the motive has been short term cash rather than the long term success of the sport.

 

[JHeaton]

Bernie said that was a possibility, but as it stands now its only highlights.

Oh, I know that. But the fact that it's at least being talked about will be positive for fans, highlights really don't cut it. You don't get the opportunity to see strategies unfold.

 

[Glaucus]

Oh, I know that. But the fact that it's at least being talked about will be positive for fans, highlights really don't cut it. You don't get the opportunity to see strategies unfold.

Or it's just a way to calm the teams down. The contracts are signed. If you were sky would you allow this uturn which would severly limit their new customer potential.

Everything that's been said it looks like highlites.

 

[JHeaton]

Or it's just a way to calm the teams down. The contracts are signed. If you were sky would you allow this uturn which would severly limit their new customer potential.

Everything that's been said it looks like highlites.

It does have me worried, but we'll see. If it is highlights then, as I said, I won't be bothering. I'm sure Bernie will have various clauses in the contract to allow him to do as he pleases, much like he does with everything else. The problem with the teams is that they tend to make threats they don't really mean (see the numerous breakaway 'attempts'), so it wouldn't surprise me if the same went on here and then Bernie got his way again.

 

[Reaper 392]

i dont know if this has been said before (this thread is massive and im not reading all of it) but there will be NO ADVERTS IN THE SKY SPORTS COVERAGE OF THE RACE

straight from the 6 o'clock news on the beeb.

fills me with confidence that sky might actually do this properly, unlike *shudders* ITV

 

[trickycurve]

Even if just a glimmer, I seriously hope the BBC show the races in full. I can live with watching the races deferred. Failing that, I'll just download the races that aren't shown live on the BBC.

Sad day, "for sure"