BBC possibly to drop F1 coverage...

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Couldn't care less what team Sky has.

I won't ever be getting it. Unless, by some miracle, I'm completely loaded :p

I just hope the BBC team stays at the BBC.

It did say they were going to share commentators, so perhaps DC and MB will have a joint contract? :/
 
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Exactly, a lot of people are weak. They tend to have high morals until it affects them then they are happy to turn to the dark side.

No one can compete with sky's money as I have said before. Quite why no one has said FU to SS is beyond me. They have adverts, they have sky subscription, they have SS subscription AND then they have sponsors for shows. I mean come on, I doubt they actually have to put in real money themselves anyway! And if I was paying £30 pm I wouldn't want adverts or sponsorship.

The BBC could setup a series of BBC world channels and run them like that (bbc world is already a commercial arm feeding money back into the BBC) and then they could afford quite a bit.
 
Outcast said:
^ This^

Plus eleventy billion.

Talk about divide & conquer. You lot are practically signing up right now.
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Well, yes. I want to watch all of the races so I will buy Sky. I don't see people's issue with them and why they're getting on their high horse about 'not lining their pockets'. Weird.
 
Basher said:
I don't see people's issue with them and why they're getting on their high horse about 'not lining their pockets'. Weird.
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Not really weird. Many people simply can't afford Sky.

Those that can have plenty of reasons to object. Sky's monopoly allows them to charge up to £600 per year for something the BBC could have provided for £10 per year per viewer? It's all very well touting the 'free market' but that requires competition to regulate prices and there is none here. The Murdoch's immoral business practices are another reason why many wouldn't touch their products with a bargepole. Putting aside political affiliations, just ask the people of Liverpool what they think of them after the Hillsborough tragedy.
 
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You do realise though his argument is simplistic that thats what the BBC have been doing each year since taking the F1 contract?

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Very simplistic - given that the current model isn't financially sustainable. The BBC could not provide full F1 coverage for £10 per viewer per year.
 
Basher said:
Very simplistic - given that the current model isn't financially sustainable. no one could provide full F1 coverage for £10 per viewer per year.
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Corrected - though its quite a gap between that and £600 required to be a viewer per year with Sky...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Indeed - I wasn't claiming that anyone could do it for £10 and £600 doesn't just give you F1 ...
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Irrelevant when you still have to pay £600 for access...

Just like the BBC license fee thats 1/4 of the price didnt also just give you F1 - if you cant see the astronomically inflated charges between what BBC had been providing and what Sky will be, is hard to see it as anything but a monopoly.

I guess carbon fibre must have gone up in price 400% or maybe they need to use special stuff so it fits down the satellite stream to avoid pixellation ;):p

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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Umm, no I don't think they could have.
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5 million viewers, £50 million cost.
Looks like £10 per viewer to me.

The last F1 contract was known to be £40m while the BBCs production costs were put at £8m. I'll provide links if you want them.
 
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mnemonix said:
... Sky's monopoly allows them to charge up to £600 per year for something the BBC could have provided for £10 per year per viewer? It's all very well touting the 'free market' but that requires competition to regulate prices and there is none here. The Murdoch's immoral business practices are another reason why many wouldn't touch their products with a bargepole. ...
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This pretty much sums it up.

I could afford Sky; I miss being able to watch football every winter weekend and I will miss watching F1. However, I will never willingly do anything to help finance or legitimise Murdoch and his attempt to gain a monopoly.

Murdoch cross-financed the loss-making and inferior Sky and was allowed to take over the superior, more technically advanced and more popular British Satellite Broadcasting without reference to the Independent Broadcasting Authority. In this breach of any interpretation of monopolistic practices, he was aided and abetted by Thatcher and her Filing Cabinet.


mnemonix said:
... Putting aside political affiliations, just ask the people of Liverpool what they think of them after the Hillsborough tragedy.
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The Murdoch empire will use absolutely ANY tactic to make money, quite regardless of truth, morality or any human characteristic.


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Not really weird. Many people simply can't afford Sky. ...
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Murdoch will make sure that he pitches his offerings at a level sufficient to make him the maximum amount of money - compare the pricing of the Times and the Sun.


Murdoch will do everything he can to destroy the BBC which does still retain some vague connection with the ideals of Lord Reith. You may not have realised before how important and valuable the BBC is to you but it is coming home to you now - too late :(
 
stockhausen said:
Murdoch cross-financed the loss-making and inferior Sky and was allowed to take over the superior, more technically advanced and more popular British Satellite Broadcasting without reference to the Independent Broadcasting Authority. In this breach of any interpretation of monopolistic practices, he was aided and abetted by Thatcher and her Filing Cabinet.
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And every government since as a result of the power and influence they gained through the subsequent ownership of so much of our media. The Chipping Norton set in power now happen to a particularly blatent and venal example of the coruption that has allowed this.

On the BBC, I'd be the first to say I don't like a lot of their current output but that changes with fashion, and I'd be the first to defend the BBC on principle as a valuable asset to this country's media and culture.
 
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mnemonix said:
5 million viewers, £50 million cost.
Looks like £10 per viewer to me.

The last F1 contract was known to be £40m while the BBCs production costs were put at £8m. I'll provide links if you want them.
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So you don't think the viewing figures would go down if it was paid for :confused:

Of course they would.
 
stockhausen said:
This pretty much sums it up.



Murdoch cross-financed the loss-making and inferior Sky and was allowed to take over the superior, more technically advanced and more popular British Satellite Broadcasting without reference to the Independent Broadcasting Authority. In this breach of any interpretation of monopolistic practices, he was aided and abetted by Thatcher and her Filing Cabinet.
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Murdoch doesn't own BSkyB. In fact his News Corporation hold less than 40%
 
englishpremier said:
Murdoch doesn't own BSkyB. In fact his News Corporation hold less than 40%
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At the moment, and not if Chipping Norton Dave and his mates have anything to do with it. 40% is a huge stake in a business anyway, but he does wholly own Sky Sports however. A small mistake by the previous poster does not detract from the fact that they have their monopolistic fingers all over the pie, so to speak.
 
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