Cricket has benefited massively from Sky's input, in the same way that Premiership football has. Sky pumps money into (some) sports that it has.
BBC possibly to drop F1 coverage...
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Cricket has benefited massively from Sky's input, in the same way that Premiership football has. Sky pumps money into (some) sports that it has.
Yeah of course, as any sport would moving from free to air to subscription. The sport as a whole though has gained lots from being on Sky.
And how much of cricket structure can be applied to f1? How will sky help f1?
They have no control of venues, cameras or directors choice. The gain in revenue will be tiny compare to f1. BBC paid 30-50mill most of which goes to the governing body. One single team can spend 300mill and midfield teams 150-200mill each.
So is there anything from cricket that can be replicated in f1 from sky influence?
They have no control of venues, cameras or directors choice. The gain in revenue will be tiny compare to f1. BBC paid 30-50mill most of which goes to the governing body. One single team can spend 300mill and midfield teams 150-200mill each.
So is there anything from cricket that can be replicated in f1 from sky influence?
No your probubly right. The relatively small insrease in income to F1 from being on Sky will make little difference.
I'm not saying moving to Sky is a good thing for F1, I was just saying that while Cricket lost figures, it benefitted in other ways.
Moving F1 to Sky is just a bad idea full stop. Its pretty much the only option they had, but I still think its a bad idea.
I'm not saying moving to Sky is a good thing for F1, I was just saying that while Cricket lost figures, it benefitted in other ways.
Moving F1 to Sky is just a bad idea full stop. Its pretty much the only option they had, but I still think its a bad idea.
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It wasn't the *only* option. Apparently Channel 4 put in the same offer as Sky and Bernie went with Sky instead.
I agree, just about everyone I know that watches F1 on a sunday is a casual watcher that enjoys the race and doesn't read or look up anything on it week to week or even talk about it.
They have their sunday dinner and watch a race.
That's the reason I started using forums in the first place in 99 to find like minded individuals that follow it deeper than a roast and a race, what times the football on?
That said I'm past caring about it now, I ranted for a day or two and I'm over it now. Whitmarsh Parr and his cronies that have got another million a year will be whinging in a few years how they have lost fans and how they have to do more for the fans.
I will watch a PVR recorded delayed feed and speed up the boring bits because I won't be able to resist looking or listening.
I won't get sky because it doesn't represent value for money to me, as before if it was on sky one I'd snap it up.
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I wrote to the Department for Culture, Media and Sport regarding this and have just received a reply. In short: they say it's out of their hands (not surprised, but I thought I'd try my luck) and that the Concorde Agreement was not breached so it's all above board. I can post the whole reply here if anyone's interested.
Haven't heard back from the Beeb about this, mind.
Haven't heard back from the Beeb about this, mind.
BBC will only be showing highlights I think
Whatever I will watch a PVR recording of that and download the full even if it turns out to be a stunner. If it's a valancia type race I will write to sky to thank them for saving me 3 hours of a lovely sunday afternoon
I wanted to get some kind of confirmation on this (amongst other things) and made a request to the BBC for information. Sadly, they won't give anything, although I expected that much.
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James Allen said that Channel 4 had an offer in but it wasnt enough money. I read elsewhere (cant recall where now) that it was the same offer.
Heres the JA article - http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/...bombshell-teams-seek-answers-from-ecclestone/
Heres the JA article - http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/...bombshell-teams-seek-answers-from-ecclestone/
I'd also heard that the offer was the same. Some suggest that the BBC went with Sky because a subscription service is not a competitor whereas a free-to-air channel would be.
Its more a case of how many possible different "bunch" of chanels are on sky before someone can turn on their box and "channel" isnt available as dish is maxed out
I believe you can have upto 4 "recievers" per dish (sorry I cant remember what they are called), HD is surely going to be the first to "suffer" if one is maxed out by servicing so many other boxes in different flats?
My mate's dad used to (don't know if he still does) turn his sky dish around and had all sorts of gizmos to get channels he shouldn't have technically been able to.
Wonder if there will be a flux of people trying illegal means to get sky sports...
Wonder if there will be a flux of people trying illegal means to get sky sports...
I'd also heard that the offer was the same. Some suggest that the BBC went with Sky because a subscription service is not a competitor whereas a free-to-air channel would be.
If the plan was always to share coverage between the BBC and someone else, that makes perfect sense.
There is no point in 2 free to air channels that everyone gets having it.
I'm pretty sure that a 'proper' shared dish will have other equipment attached to service as many connections as needed, else they would need loads of dishes per block of flats.
Flats are different, the issue you refer to are the LNB's, these remove the lower frequency signal carrier which is then sent to your sky box, a normal dish can have upto a quad LNB (well there may be more now), which means only 4 connections in 1 dwellling (A Sky+ box requires 2)..
IIRC In a typical flat install, they feed the raw high frequency satellite signal down to each flat from a single dish, each flat has it's own effective LNB's, thus each flat can have multiroom etc and cater for lots of flats with no issues.
Of course, some small dwellings with a couple of flats might skimp and put a normal dish with Quad LNB on, limiting the amount of boxes you can have, but the answer would be to have a dish per flat in that case..
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I would expect an influx of enquiries for dreambox in the past 7 days!
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Usually with a community dish setup they'll use a Quattro LNB on the dish which feeds a multiswitch (More Info) for distributing feeds to each property; if setup correctly then you should have any issues, it'll be as if you had your own dish.
Back on topic, i'm still surprised Channel 5 didn't get a look in considering Bernie being great pals with Richard Desmond. Either way, it's a done deal and no amount of letters or emails from ****** off fans will change that unfortunately
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