Beheading at Notre-Dame basilica in Nice

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Mason- said:
I find amazing that someone would opt to argue to use a less specific name for what this is. Why would you call this a far-right attack when it’s clearly far more specific to call it an Islamic terrorist attack.

It’s almost as if you’re trying to lump it in with other types of attack so that you can then downplay that Islamic ones are the most common/severe at current times. That couldn’t possibly be your motivation could it? If you can lump it in with other types of terrorism you can then start deflecting.

“well it’s a far right attack”
“not all far right attacks are Islamic”


What you’re arguing for is to stop someone saying:
“Oh that’s a nice BMW”
And you say:
“No it’s a car, just like any other car. Stop calling it a BMW, it’s a car”

Arguing for less specificity because you want to share the burden of guilt with other groups you deem responsible for far right terror. Your motives are incredibly transparent.

Have you considered a job in BBC journalism?
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It's typical deflection which is exactly what you see from these same people. There's no evidence at all to label it a far right attack. None. It's all in his head.
 
omnomnom said:
Literally just compared the two mate. Ones labelled far right yet this isn't? You're talking utter nonsense.

Explain why it isnt in comparison to that. They are almost identical...why is one far right and the other not?
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To compare something is not proof of what your saying.
That is just your opinion and nothing more.

No one knows what side he supports.
He was carrying his Quran(another made up book) when he killed.
That showed he was of the muslim faith.
 
Dis86 said:
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It's typical deflection which is exactly what you see from these same people. There's no evidence at all to label it a far right attack. None. It's all in his head.
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It’s irrelevant if it were to fall under some vague definition of ‘far-right’ or not.

The point is, he is opting for a less specific term so that he can dilute it in with other types. It’s incredibly obvious.
 
Mason- said:
I find it amazing that someone would opt to argue to use a less specific name for what this is. Why would you call this a far-right attack when it’s clearly far more specific to call it an Islamic terrorist attack.

It’s almost as if you’re trying to lump it in with other types of attack so that you can then downplay that Islamic ones are the most common/severe at current times. That couldn’t possibly be your motivation could it? If you can lump it in with other types of terrorism you can then start deflecting.

“well it’s a far right attack”
“not all far right attacks are Islamic”


What you’re arguing for is to stop someone saying:
“Oh that’s a nice BMW”
And you say:
“No it’s a car, just like any other car. Stop calling it a BMW, it’s a car”

Arguing for less specificity because you want to share the burden of guilt with other groups you deem responsible for far right terror. Your motives are incredibly transparent.

Have you considered a job in BBC journalism?
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Have another +1
 
Dis86 said:
+1

It's typical deflection which is exactly what you see from these same people. There's no evidence at all to label it a far right attack. None. It's all in his head.
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I literally just compared it to a far right attack. I explained why they were similar...they literally had the same motive.
Mason- said:
I find amazing that someone would opt to argue to use a less specific name for what this is. Why would you call this a far-right attack when it’s clearly far more specific to call it an Islamic terrorist attack.

It’s almost as if you’re trying to lump it in with other types of attack so that you can then downplay that Islamic ones are the most common/severe at current times. That couldn’t possibly be your motivation could it? If you can lump it in with other types of terrorism you can then start deflecting.

“well it’s a far right attack”
“not all far right attacks are Islamic”


What you’re arguing for is to stop someone saying:
“Oh that’s a nice BMW”
And you say:
“No it’s a car, just like any other car. Stop calling it a BMW, it’s a car”

Arguing for less specificity because you want to share the burden of guilt with other groups you deem responsible for far right terror. Your motives are incredibly transparent.

Have you considered a job in BBC journalism?
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How am i downplaying anything? I'm calling them both out as being vile but they are one of the same.


Mason- said:
It’s irrelevant if it were to fall under some vague definition of ‘far-right’ or not.

The point is, he is opting for a less specific term so that he can dilute it in with other types. It’s incredibly obvious.
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No, no im not. Im just curious as to why people are going to absolute extremes just because this person was a Muslim. Banning a religion?

Yea ok.

Why is this attack deemed worse then a far right attack? Surely its the same thing. Both have the same aims and usually the same outcome all for some nonsense reason.

How is this attack any different to Anders Brevik, a far right murderer?
 
omnomnom said:
I literally just compared it to a far right attack. I explained why they were similar...they literally had the same motive.


How am i downplaying anything? I'm calling them both out as being vile but they are one of the same.




No, no im not. Im just curious as to why people are going to absolute extremes just because this person was a Muslim. Banning a religion?

Yea ok.

Why is this attack deemed worse then a far right attack? Surely its the same thing. Both have the same aims and usually the same outcome all for some nonsense reason.

How is this attack any different to Anders Brevik, a far right murderer?
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I’m not playing semantics with you. Your motives are incredibly obvious and you are yet to explain why it would be prudent to opt for a less specific term. So you have fun playing in the sandbox arguing over what’s a sand castle and what’s a sand structure. I won’t be joining you.
 
Mason- said:
I’m not playing semantics with you. Your motives are incredibly obvious and you are yet to explain why it would be prudent to opt for a less specific term. So you have fun playing in the sandbox arguing over what’s a sand castle and what’s a sand structure. I won’t be joining you.
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Nope i dont consider it less at all. I literally just said that i think they are the same. Its you that is putting them at different levels mate.

Answer my question...How is it different?
 
omnomnom said:
The people murdered oppressed muslims?
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No, but he may have believed they were symptomatic of the oppression of Muslims by the West. It's why we see numerous attacks in the name of Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

Except we don't know. Because we don't know his motives.
 
omnomnom said:
Why are you the first person to comment about muslim grooming gangs then mention Catholics being the victims? I mean just say you're racist and be done with it.



Sure it does...it rarely happens though and you know it. The fact remains this was a far right attack and the perpetrator has the same ideology as a number of posters on this very thread.
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The article mentioned the victims being Catholic before I did...

Why do you hate the victims so much?
 
Terrorist attack in Avignon confirmed.

'Man shot dead in Avignon after threatening public with weapon.'

A man has been shot dead by police after threatening people with a handgun in a city in southern France. The man was shot dead in Montfavet, a district in the city of Avignon, on Thursday, police said.

A police official told The Independent the attacker said he was from the far-right Mouvance Identitaire.
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Between the Muslims, the radical right, and the radical left, it has not been a great year for riots, violence, and terrorism.
 
Khabib, who is one of the most popular Muslims around right now, just posted this to his Instagram with a picture of Macron:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CG9t9IUs0eZ/?igshid=7agazlodvefk

May the Almighty disfigure the face of this creature and all its followers, who, under the slogan of freedom of speech, offend the feelings of more than one and a half billion Muslim believers. May the Almighty humiliate them in this life, and in the next. Allah is quick in calculation and you will see it.

We are Muslims, we love our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) more than our mothers, fathers, children, wives and all other people close to our hearts. Believe me, these provocations will come out sideways for them, the end is always for the God-fearing.
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2 million likes and counting...

Biggest bunch of cry babies on the planet. Absolutely pathetic.
 
G-MAN2004 said:
Khabib, who is one of the most popular Muslims around right now, just posted this to his Instagram with a picture of Macron:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CG9t9IUs0eZ/?igshid=7agazlodvefk



2 million likes and counting...

Biggest bunch of cry babies on the planet. Absolutely pathetic.
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I have come to believe that pretty much every Muslim is in agreement but they are biding thier time so remain silent. Khabib should deported he made his wealth off the backs of the people and values he hates so much. Yet the west raised him up.

Good job, Rearing that pet snake.
 
Maccy said:
Man some of the comments in this thread, I worry about some of you
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How though? Your post sounds like you are hinting that people in this thread are unwell or have mental issues and we should worry about them for these reasons? I really doubt they do tbh could you not instead dismantle thier fears with an informative post?

Is that what you meant?
 
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